Posted February 21, 2014
muttly13
I must break you
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SlyFox
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Posted February 21, 2014
SlyFox: ...
You are forgetting, companies goes where there are customers, not the other way around.
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muttly13: Hmmmm, tell that to The Pet Rock, Ford, Pokemon or any other remotely innovative product. Good companies create markets where there was none before. You are forgetting, companies goes where there are customers, not the other way around.
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That's how all companies start. They go toward the client.
Only when they have customer loyalty, they start to add DRM and other nonsense little by little, pushing the customer to accept more and more.
There is a saying.
Put a frog in boiling water and it will jump out immediately.
Put it in cold water and increase the temperature slowly and it will stand there and boil to death.
Bad Hair Day
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Niggles
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Posted February 21, 2014
stoicsentry: Can someone please explain why this happens, in a way that is more meaningful than "they're greedy"? (I mean, if this was JUST about greed, why wouldn't they also charge those insane prices for U.S. people as well?) So why exactly does this happen? Is it just the VAT taxes or something else?
From what i vaguely know they explained these prices on transport.Yes. Digital price wise something about retail stores putting pressure on publishers to keep the prices high - most likely why Steam pricing for us is the way it is. Otherwise retail stores go out of business. Or so it goes...
And then they blame it on exchange rate - which seems odd because prices never changed to reflect when aussie dollar was higher than US dollar for a good time
Post edited February 21, 2014 by Niggles
dnovraD
2023-08-14: Remember the Spaces!
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Posted February 21, 2014
stoicsentry: Can someone please explain why this happens, in a way that is more meaningful than "they're greedy"? (I mean, if this was JUST about greed, why wouldn't they also charge those insane prices for U.S. people as well?) So why exactly does this happen? Is it just the VAT taxes or something else?
Niggles: From what i vaguely know they explained these prices on transport.Yes. Digital price wise something about retail stores putting pressure on publishers to keep the prices high - most likely why Steam pricing for us is the way it is. Otherwise retail stores go out of business. Or so it goes...
And then they blame it on exchange rate - which seems odd because prices never changed to reflect when aussie dollar was higher than US dollar for a good time
blotunga
GrumpyOldGamers.CyringOutMiserably
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Posted February 21, 2014
SlyFox: Vat existed in the 16bit era, yet the prices were similar in USA and Europe.
They just see they can charge 3 to 4 times more to European for the same product so they do.
Another problem will be that later on they will add region lock to enforce the region pricing.
Plus forget the cheap prices for older games. I'm sure those games will suddenly increase in price too.
Region lock means DRM. So in the near future we can kiss the DRM-Free part also goodbye.They just see they can charge 3 to 4 times more to European for the same product so they do.
Another problem will be that later on they will add region lock to enforce the region pricing.
Plus forget the cheap prices for older games. I'm sure those games will suddenly increase in price too.
SlyFox
gamer
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Posted February 21, 2014
SlyFox: Vat existed in the 16bit era, yet the prices were similar in USA and Europe.
They just see they can charge 3 to 4 times more to European for the same product so they do.
Another problem will be that later on they will add region lock to enforce the region pricing.
Plus forget the cheap prices for older games. I'm sure those games will suddenly increase in price too.
blotunga: Region lock means DRM. So in the near future we can kiss the DRM-Free part also goodbye. They just see they can charge 3 to 4 times more to European for the same product so they do.
Another problem will be that later on they will add region lock to enforce the region pricing.
Plus forget the cheap prices for older games. I'm sure those games will suddenly increase in price too.
grimwerk
sleeper slice
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dnovraD
2023-08-14: Remember the Spaces!
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Posted February 21, 2014
stoicsentry: Can someone please explain why this happens, in a way that is more meaningful than "they're greedy"? (I mean, if this was JUST about greed, why wouldn't they also charge those insane prices for U.S. people as well?) So why exactly does this happen? Is it just the VAT taxes or something else?
grimwerk: -snip- Post edited February 21, 2014 by Darvond
blotunga
GrumpyOldGamers.CyringOutMiserably
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Posted February 21, 2014
This is why they try to create artificial scarcity. With Digital Deluxe, Steam Special Edition and such crap. And soon we'll have all that here too.
Rusty_Gunn
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Posted February 21, 2014
well, I'm one who was willing to buy "Skyrim collector's edition" 150 USD until steamworks made the set worthless to me.
Sslaxx
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From United Kingdom
Posted February 21, 2014
Amusing that people think businesses can have principles. Selling points, yes (as DRM-free and single pricing (for now) are), but not principles.
Interestingly, I found that (the Linux versions at least) the versions of the Eschalon trilogy games sold on Steam are DRM-free - and don't need the Steam client running. Dunno if that's true for the Windows version, but seeing as it means I can play said games without having to reboot, all good by me.
Interestingly, I found that (the Linux versions at least) the versions of the Eschalon trilogy games sold on Steam are DRM-free - and don't need the Steam client running. Dunno if that's true for the Windows version, but seeing as it means I can play said games without having to reboot, all good by me.
dnovraD
2023-08-14: Remember the Spaces!
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Posted February 21, 2014
Darvond: That might matter, if we were dealing with physical and finite goods. But such a place, GOG isn't. There are no limitations of supply, so demand can sod off.
blotunga: This is why they try to create artificial scarcity. With Digital Deluxe, Steam Special Edition and such crap. And soon we'll have all that here too. There's a reason why I really haven't been into newer games, and its crap like that. I came here to relive titles I couldn't find anywhere, and hopefully have them separated from the contrived publishers who sold their souls to Ol' Scratch.
Tpiom
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Posted February 21, 2014
tinyE: Okay okay I got it, thank you.
Next question, is anyone planning on getting rid of their GOG account over this?
As in stop using gog? I don't think it's possible to delete your account :p Next question, is anyone planning on getting rid of their GOG account over this?
Anyway, I can not sign this... if regional pricing is stopping some publishers from getting on board, then by all means introduce it. Hell, I'd even pay double the price just to get it drm free: so all in all, the price is irrelevant for me... If it's too expensive at release I'll just buy it on sale.
Maybe they can see beyond that. If I'm not mistaken, it was a court decision... right? Or am I thinking of something else now?
Post edited February 21, 2014 by Tpiom
dnovraD
2023-08-14: Remember the Spaces!
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Posted February 21, 2014
tinyE: Okay okay I got it, thank you.
Next question, is anyone planning on getting rid of their GOG account over this?
Tpiom: As in stop using gog? I don't think it's possible to delete your account :p Next question, is anyone planning on getting rid of their GOG account over this?
Anyway, I can not sign this... if regional pricing is stopping some publishers from getting on board then sure, introduce it. Hell, I'd even pay double the price just to get it drm free: so all in all, the price is irrelevant for me... If it's too expensive at release I'll just buy it on sale.
Other people and countries aren't so lucky. This doesn't even affect me and I'm against it. I despise publisher greed and dare the CEOs to take up to 50% paycuts just to prove they don't even need all that much money to live. The savings alone would be massive!