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http://torrentfreak.com/verizons-six-strikes-anti-piracy-measures-unveiled-130111/

"During the coming weeks the controversial “six-strikes” anti-piracy system will kick off in the U.S. While none of the participating ISPs have officially announced how they will handle repeat infringers, TorrentFreak has obtained a copy of Verizon’s full policy. Among other things, offenders will have to watch a video about the consequences of online piracy, before their speeds are reduced to 256kbps. Also worth mentioning is that the copyright alert system will also apply to business customers."
So how is this going to be handled? Are you going to be punished just for VISITING a torrent site? For downloading a torrent? For being caught running one (which would be ridiculous...many legitimate businesses give torrent options)?

Also, since I didn't read the article, are AT&T or Time Warner/Roadrunner one of the participating ISPs?
Post edited January 11, 2013 by johnki
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Waiting with baited breath to hear all the excuses about why people think this is wrong.

For the record you don't get a strike just for downloading a torrent, you get a strike for downloading copyrighted material.
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Egotomb: Waiting with baited breath to hear all the excuses about why people think this is wrong.

For the record you don't get a strike just for downloading a torrent, you get a strike for downloading copyrighted material.
Shouldn't that be you get a strike for being suspected of downloading copyrighted material?
what if I download something I have already bought? is that illegal?
Start leeching .. right now while you still can xD

just kidding
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Egotomb: Waiting with baited breath to hear all the excuses about why people think this is wrong.

For the record you don't get a strike just for downloading a torrent, you get a strike for downloading copyrighted material.
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Rodzaju: Shouldn't that be you get a strike for being suspected of downloading copyrighted material?
That might wash for your first strike.
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Egotomb: That might wash for your first strike.
If they give 5 strikes for downloads that may not even be copyright material, that's ok? Unless they prove it I'd imagine you wouldn't get a strike?
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Egotomb: That might wash for your first strike.
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Pheace: If they give 5 strikes for downloads that may not even be copyright material, that's ok?
Think you missed my first post.
Post edited January 11, 2013 by Egotomb
If this is mainly aimed at torrents, then the way they get you is having a copyright bot crawl for torrents, connect to the swarm, then get a list of IP addresses with time stamps on them. Doing things like direct download and newsgroups won't be tracked unless ISPs are setting up some kind of deep packet inspection, which I'd imagine will raise all kinds of privacy issues and lawsuits.
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johnki: Also, since I didn't read the article, are AT&T or Time Warner/Roadrunner one of the participating ISPs?
Yes Has Your ISP Joined the US “Six Strikes” Anti-Piracy Scheme?

My little cable company isn't included, nor is my phone company as they are fairly big, but not on the level of Verizon or ATT.
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Egotomb: Think you missed my first post.
You're the one who made it seem like it might be a valid excuse or something which would imply that there'd be no certainty of it being copyrighted material till it's repeated. It's either a proven fact or it's not in which case it's not an excuse either way.
Post edited January 11, 2013 by Pheace
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Tychoxi: what if I download something I have already bought? is that illegal?
technically I think yeah. unless you also buy the download. cause you bought that one copy
Post edited January 11, 2013 by pseudonarne
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Egotomb: Think you missed my first post.
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Pheace: You're the one who made it seem like it might be a valid excuse or something which would imply that there'd be no certainty of it being copyrighted material till it's repeated. It's either a proven fact or it's not in which case it's not an excuse either way.
Can you quote where I said anything even remotely like that?
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Egotomb: Can you quote where I said anything even remotely like that?
If you say something's going to 'wash' for the first strike, that's where you implied there would be some sort of validity to the excuse, else it wouldn't.
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Egotomb: Can you quote where I said anything even remotely like that?
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Pheace: If you say something's going to 'wash' for the first strike, that's where you implied there would be some sort of validity to the excuse, else it wouldn't.
Sure I except there is a slim chance of error on a first strike like a screwed up IP address or something, as there are no consequences at this point anyway, it's probably no big deal. I think You would have to be very unlucky for your ISP to get 6 complaints from copyright owners by mistake though, but even then there is an appeal system(independent) where you could set the record straight.

What scenarios can you imagine where someone might be given 6 strikes wrongly?
Post edited January 11, 2013 by Egotomb