hedwards: That makes sense, I couldn't recall if MS ever added that support to their 32bit versions. It's not super security, but it does make buffer overruns somewhat less risky.
Redfern: In all my life i got only several cases of NX-related crashes. And i got HUGE amount of problems with software which use Photoshop 8BF plugins - its virtually incompatible with NX.
So, dont sure about big pluses which it brings...
It means that portions of the memory are marked as not executable, which means that the processor will not execute anything in those areas. So, it means that if you load a text document or picture, anything in the regions being used by those files can't be executed. So, if somebody either tries to attach a script to it, or use a buffer overrun to hit execute things from that area of the memory, it fails as the processor won't execute anything in a region of memory with that bit set.
When you combine that with ASLR, you make it quite a bit more challenging to write things to memory and then execute them without asking permission.
I've never had either one crash a program, it sounds like the Adobe plugins that caused the crash weren't coded correctly or Photoshop lacks the appropriate controls to make sure that doesn't happen.
hedwards: It's not about nostalgia, it's about how fundamentally broken the system was at release. I'm sure it's fine for tablets with a touch screen, but the time I spent fucking around with it was rather depressing. One shouldn't have to relearn how to use an OS just because MS wants to cram the same interface into all of their OSes across the different markets.
From what I understand 8.1 fixes some of the brokenness, but it's not going to be until 9 that the rest of it gets fixed. Considering how good Linux has gotten, not to mention OSX, this is the kind of slip up they can't afford. I know my dad now uses Linux because of that.
iippo: in my daily use of win 8.1, that is pretty much internet, games etc usual crap i have zero problems with win8.1. I dont miss the start button and ive learned to navigate it just fine. But maybe you need something from win8.1 that i do not. I can only speak of my own use.
Sure the store is utter crap, but its not like you ever need it for anything. Desktop is desktop and you spend most of the time there, win-button plus write whatever search is super fast and for me thats more than enough to replace the start-button some want. Sure i could do quick buttons on either desktop or the metro-page or whatever, but ive personally noticed that i just dont have the need.
personal preferance ofcourse.
There's a certain degree of personal preference and the fact that it completely destroys the paradigm that Windows has had since I first started using it nearly 25 years ago. It probably would work on a tablet, but it's complete garbage on a desktop. It's just more of that unusable ribbony bullshit that MS has been foisting on their users for some time now. And I have better things to do with my time than to learn how to use the OS because MS doesn't feel like making the interface compatible with previous iterations.