The dude asked a question. Whether the games would run on Windows 8.

grynnn replied first, and then I just added that it will run them better, in general, I'm not going to list which games will run and which won't. Of course there will be games that won't run, that happens with every release of Windows.

/care if you buy the OS or not, /care how you see my reply, /care if all in Microsoft die tomorrow or whatever. Just wanted to add something that is related to the OP's question.

Well. If you see the statement "Windows 8 is better optimized than Windows 7 and uses less system resources" as relevant and helpful for the question "Will GOG games be converted to Windows 8?", fine. I see little point in debating this, we'll just have to agree to disagree then.

Personally, I did not get the impression that your motivation was "help the person who asked a question". To be honest, while I was opening the thread, I was actually wondering "Oh, a Windows 8 thread. Let's see how many posts it takes for kavazovangel to take his campaign over here". As I see, it took exactly 2 posts until a post of you showed up that (a) is not relevant to the question asked, (b) pitches alleged advantages of Windows 8, and (c) fails to mention any potential drawbacks or problems whatsoever. Judging from the thread, I don't seem to be the only one who got such an impression either.

I'm not attacking or slamming you (at least I hope I don't come across that way), but I'm politely asking you to stop behaving like a marketing person. I don't care if you like Windows 8 or not, but the one-sidedness of your statements hast started to really stick out on this forum, and is misleading to people who don't know much about the topic yet. This one-sidedness, and your eagerness to jump into every discussion of Windows 8, also makes you an easy victim to trolls or flame bait.

I'm simply asking you to put reliable, complete information (which includes positive _and_ negative aspects) in front of your desire to help Windows 8 becoming a success. You're free to ignore that request, of course. But if you want to be perceived as a reliable source of information, I do suggest you don't.

Anyway. I'm not claiming to know any objective truths here, I'm just honestly telling how things look for _me_. Feel free to disregard it, or to think about it for a while - it's your choice.

Edit: typos

Just to address this point, it is a complete non-issue as the games still run. Joe's problem is that he has a toaster that is in no way capable of running Windows 8, and nothing to do with Windows 8 being able to run that game or not.

For example, my experience is that I haven't yet found a game that can't be run in Windows 8 that ran in Windows 7; I even tried games that run in 16 color bit mode (to which you can't switch to from the Display options anymore) and they still run, even without starting them in compatibility mode.

So yes, if your computer will strugle to run the OS then it's a bit of a misrepresentation to say that software runs slower.

As for turning Aero off (which is one of many of Tea's pet peeves), you can't do that anymore as you can only run WDDM drivers (unlike Windows 7 and Vista) which means that Aero isn't an external component to the driver and windowing subsystem anymore.
How dare you say that one anecdote can't be treated as being more valid than another anecdote!

Maybe he just doesn't like misinformation. As well, he has been actually successfully using the OS to do his work, if he thinks it runs his apps better, it most likely does.
It didn't look like a question to me, it looked like a cheap shot at Win 8 with a helping of venom. There's no question to be asked, anyone with half a brain could have googled up the answer in 30 seconds.

I fail to see how introducing rudeness into the discussion is going to make any argument more convincing, sorry.

Agreed, absolutely. I wonder though why you feel the need to restate that and even shout while doing so, since I never debated that. I said that the one-sidedness of the posts (and the eagerness to write such one-sided posts) makes me sad, and that this forum is often better than that, and I dtand by that. I didn't say that such posts aren't allowed.

Personally, I'd say that a better way to combat any FUD is to provide complete, factual, relevant information while trying to respect differing opinions. There are many good examples for that on this very forum. This strategy also has the advantage that one maintains its credibility. If you try to counter an alleged one-sided mudslinging campaign with a one-sided praise campaign, then the only result is that both sides are forfeiting their credibility. Kavazovangel's statementsduring thelast weeks _have_ caused me to take his statements with a huge grain of salt, while I continue to trust other people who are fond of Windows 8. Since I'm not the only one who feels that way, I offered some thoughts that might be worthwhile for him to think about, but I'll say it again, it's his choice.

Just like d'Artagnan dared, wodmarach is simply daring. I dare you to dare to get in the way of said daring!
I think kava was trying to help, honestly, the only thing he did was skip the thesis statement, "You know, you really might like Win 8, it has several improvements over Win 7." Obviously the OP had a serious hangup about it and honestly the OP's question only got asked due to said hangup, addressing the hangup is probably a valid way to help.

I agree. I didn't want to go too far into this particular topic, but I don't think our views of that post are much different. But that's exactly why I was so happy about the first response post, which was factual and didn't take the bait.

Fair enough. I do, however, think kava was trying to help though, just by trying to address the underlying concern. I'm sure it fell on deaf ears, but I don't think his intentions were poor.

Perfectly possibly, though I did get (and, well, still have) a different impression. But yeah, that's why I said I don't claim any objective truths here, I'm just stating the impressions that I got (thinking that I'm not the only person to get them) and explaining why that happened. I think that _if_ kava is wondering at some point why several people wonder about "Microsoft owning his soul", as mentioned earlier in this thread, he can use my post to understand the reasons. (In hindsight, seeing how the discussion developed, I probably should have provided them via PM though. The sub-discussion I started has now evolved into several people discussing with me the behavior of another member who doesn't seem to participate in this discussion anymore; basically every explanation I give now could be seen as an attack against someone who left the room, which is a situation I'm not comfortable with.)

Personally, I see the whole Windows 8 debate rather pragmatic. I don't really like what I heard about it so far, but no one's forcing me to switch. I can happily continue to use Win 7 and/or Linux, so I'm watching the development with a rather laid-back attitude. I am, however, a bit concerned about the handling of the topic in general. Obviously, Win8 has become a hotly debated topic on the net, and I see people locking themselves into one-sided stances and simply ignoring any data that doesn't match their stance. On a forum where OS compatibility problems often need to be discussed and solved, the quality of the respective discussions and problem-solving will diminish when participants have locked themselves into said stances, so that's a matter of concern to me.

Dang, looks like by the time I get a new computer I'll miss out on at least Vista and 7, maybe even 8 depending on when I get the money together for one. It will be a big switch from XP. :P

Who dares wins!

Well must have some balls to use a beta as his main OS.Hope he doesnt encounter any horrendous bugs or glitches ;)

Some fullscreen games exhibit strange symptoms on Windows 8, possibly because of this change to Aero. Gothic and Gothic II both run with a title bar visible while in fullscreen mode, obscuring part of the image (see attachment).

I'm hoping this is somehow a driver issue or something but if this really is due to the Aero change that's a big disappointment with what is otherwise an excellent upgrade.

EDIT: to clarify Fraps isn't the issue, I'm running with it on to make it clearer that the image is being overlapped.

Tried running it in compatibility mode? It's weird. I'll try and install Gothic and check to see if I can replicate it or it's just a weird driver issue.