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Well I didn't like any PoP game personally. I only liked Ghost Recon 2 for XBox and it's expansion, Splinter Cell Chaos Theory and Pandora Tomorrow on XBox and PC, but my hopes for a better sequel to Chaos Theory was ruined with Double Agent so I gave up on Ubisoft. Advanced Warfighter was a piece of shit, Double Agent was a heap of cheese, and the other games I wouldn't give a rat's ass and a can of pringles for.
So honestly I will pass this crappy DRM up mostly because the games it's protecting suck. That and no game, no matter how good, is worth the headache this DRM would cause me.
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tb87670: Advanced Warfighter was a piece of shit

CONSOLE Advanced Warfighter was crap, the PC version was pretty good for the most part
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Tantrix: AC 2 is available on Steam for Pre-order.
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Fuck even there:
3rd-party DRM:
UBISOFT REQUIRES A PERMANENT HIGH SPEED INTERNET CONNECTION AND CREATION OF A UBISOFT ACCOUNT TO PLAY THIS VIDEO GAME AT ALL TIMES.

It's also $60.
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tb87670: CONSOLE Advanced Warfighter was crap, the PC version was pretty good for the most part
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Aliasalpha: I got it on Steam long ago back-logged and forgot to play it, still didn't like it myself. Granted I'm not Steam as much anymore until Bad Company 2 comes out so don't know if I'll be on to chat as much. Steam ID is AOD_T-Bone Biggins or T-Bone Biggins, look for my avatar same on this forum as it is Steam.
Post edited February 25, 2010 by tb87670
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Weclock: Persia games, the only one I liked is the one everyone hated. Which is that new one that has nothing to do with "the trilogy"
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anjohl: Everyone hated that? Wow, gamers have gotten WAYYY too branded and cynical. That game was spectacular.

I loved the game as well (I believe it's known as 'Prince of Persia 2008'). It wasn't a game that tried to beat the player, it took the player along to tell the player a story. It was kind of a dynamic adventure game rather than an "action" game.
It was visually beautiful, the music was excellent, and I loved the ending (partially because it made me do something I didn't want to do). The only criticism I have would be that it's a very blatant console port, to the point that I considered using my Xbox 360's controller to finish the game (though I ended up playing it through with the mouse and keyboard). It was among my favourite games of 2008, and I intend to replay it in the future (still have to get through a backlog of GOG games though).
Post edited February 25, 2010 by DClark
There is nothing you can do to make them stop using DRM so you can buy their games DRM free, short of passing laws against it.
Realistic options, excluding piracy:
1) You decide you don't need them, even if it means going to other hobbies.
2) Laws are passed to deal with this.
3) Nothing, you swallow what they want you to.
So long as they are so important that you must have victory, you cannot win. Treat them like the unneeded luxury they are instead of food or oil. Being held hostage by video games is pathetic.
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Sfon: There is nothing you can do to make them stop using DRM so you can buy their games DRM free, short of passing laws against it.
Realistic options, excluding piracy:
1) You decide you don't need them, even if it means going to other hobbies.
2) Laws are passed to deal with this.
3) Nothing, you swallow what they want you to.
So long as they are so important that you must have victory, you cannot win. Treat them like the unneeded luxury they are instead of food or oil. Being held hostage by video games is pathetic.

The problem is that most people are #3, and the publishers know it.
Mark my word, if COd4-3 came out at $150 US, and required a constant internet connection, it *might* see a 5% loss in numbers sold. *Might*.
People are spineless sheep. I vowed to boycott L$D2, and I will never buy it. As a rule, I say what I mean and mean what I say.
Apparently ubisot hates deployed soldiers too
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2010/02/the-victims-of-pc-gaming-drm-one-soldiers-story.ars
They should be careful, those guys have GUNS! Also the soldier in the article needs to be told about GOG
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Aliasalpha: Apparently ubisot hates deployed soldiers too
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2010/02/the-victims-of-pc-gaming-drm-one-soldiers-story.ars
They should be careful, those guys have GUNS! Also the soldier in the article needs to be told about GOG

Military would love it. :)
I emailed the author about it.
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Sfon: There is nothing you can do to make them stop using DRM so you can buy their games DRM free, short of passing laws against it.
Realistic options, excluding piracy:
1) You decide you don't need them, even if it means going to other hobbies.
2) Laws are passed to deal with this.
3) Nothing, you swallow what they want you to.
So long as they are so important that you must have victory, you cannot win. Treat them like the unneeded luxury they are instead of food or oil. Being held hostage by video games is pathetic.

Exactly. You want to send a message? Don't buy it. Let's just stop acting like computer games are some intrinsic right, or necessary to enjoyment of life.
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Gersen: Stalker SoC never had online activation, heck the US version didn't even had any copy protection.
Anno 1401 still has the online activation even after the last patch.
X1,2,3 never had online activation, the copy propection was removed by a patch though.
The original Farcry 2 still has it's online activation, maybe not the Fortune edition doesn't but I don't know anybody owning it.

Old post but I wanted to correct you... not sure if it is a Euro thing, but all the games I listed CERTAINLY had online activation in the US and all of them had it patched out. If Euro is different good for you, but I only used examples I was completely sure of, and there they are. There are many others as well.
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Sfon: So long as they are so important that you must have victory, you cannot win. Treat them like the unneeded luxury they are instead of food or oil. Being held hostage by video games is pathetic.

Yep and I am also refusing to buy ubisoft games on the 360 , if it has this DRM on the PC version, as well. Everybody who objects to this new DRM needs to follow suit in this meaningful way and not buy games on their console as well.
[edit - just do it; none of this bitching and moaning about it and then buying it anyway ... just dont buy ubisoft products]
Post edited February 25, 2010 by tacitus59
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Sfon: There is nothing you can do to make them stop using DRM so you can buy their games DRM free, short of passing laws against it.
Realistic options, excluding piracy:
1) You decide you don't need them, even if it means going to other hobbies.
2) Laws are passed to deal with this.
3) Nothing, you swallow what they want you to.
So long as they are so important that you must have victory, you cannot win. Treat them like the unneeded luxury they are instead of food or oil. Being held hostage by video games is pathetic.
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Crassmaster: Exactly. You want to send a message? Don't buy it. Let's just stop acting like computer games are some intrinsic right, or necessary to enjoyment of life.

Oh, but they are. Entertaintment is an intrinsic right. Just like broadband internet access. They recognized that over in Finland.
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Sfon: Yep and I am also refusing to buy ubisoft games on the 360 , if it has this DRM on the PC version, as well. Everybody who objects to this new DRM needs to follow suit in this meaningful way and not buy games on their console as well.
[edit - just do it; none of this bitching and moaning about it and then buying it anyway ... just dont buy ubisoft products]

Or start an off-line boycott on Ubisoft. Like a protest outside their offices. I would if there were any ubisoft related buildings around here. :D
Post edited February 25, 2010 by drmlessgames
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HertogJan: If you want to pull such a scheme, go directly to Ubisoft's online store and preorder there.
Cancel the preorder before it's shipped and tell them it's their DRM policy that made you cancel the order.
If you do that with enough people, they'll at least notice it.

They state clearly on their online store "A permanent high-speed Internet connection is required to play the game". In the article the author states that he is targeting Tesco, because there is no mention of the DRM. This gives you a justifiable reason for returning, ie: "I was outraged to discover the DRM in this game. I had no idea!" :P
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HertogJan: As for the article linked to, the link to Tesco goes through tradedoubler.
A google search shows tradedoubler is an affiliate program.
I don't know tradedoubler nor how it works exactly, but it assumes the author is part of their affiliate program.
It's likely the author gets money from people pre-ordering using that URL.
No idea how tradedoubler deals with canceled orders.

True or not the author comments on this.
-Kom
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komoto: They state clearly on their online store "A permanent high-speed Internet connection is required to play the game". In the article the author states that he is targeting Tesco, because there is no mention of the DRM. This gives you a justifiable reason for returning, ie: "I was outraged to discover the DRM in this game. I had no idea!" :P
True or not the author comments on this.
-Kom

To keep things clear I've removed the text you quoted me on.
I never checked back on that page.
I'm also not aware of the legal rules for canceling pre-orders in the UK.
In The Netherlands I don't have to give a reason for canceling it, although sellers do try to force you to.
Post edited February 25, 2010 by HertogJan