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Posted July 27, 2009
Piracy has taken a hefty toll on Ubisoft, according to company head Yves Guillemot

No sir, shitty quality games have taken their toll on Ubisoft.
Facry being virtually unplayable, BGAE being a crappy console port of a good game, and Farcry 2 being "Generic Shooter" has taken it's toll on Ubisoft.#Q&_^Q&Q#LINK:15#Q&_^Q&Q#

And rainbow six
and ghost recon
and splinter cell
and prince of persia...
I'm not sure that Far Cry 2 had such a history of excellence to live up to, aside from the free roaming element, #1 was pretty much a generic shooter that got royally screwed up halfway through.
At the rate they seem to be sliding, the next silent hunter will probably feature kung fu fighting free running transforming robots disguised as WW2 subs
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chautemoc: You beat me to this by a minute. :P

Mwahaha all your thread are belong to me
Post edited July 27, 2009 by Aliasalpha
Posted July 27, 2009
- A man with a gun to your head until you buy the game legally.
- A C&C Ion Cannon ('Cause they can afford one of those. =/)
- Common se-. . .nevermind.
Really, Ubisoft just needs to curl up and die in a corner. After they release Splinter Cell: Conviction, mind you.
Posted July 28, 2009
So "new anti-piracy tool".
Do they think that delaying the release of cracks by a few days (at best) will be such a big deal?
Posted July 28, 2009
Ubisoft are a bit of an oddball lately. Just when you think they are completely evil, they do a few good things. (DRM free games, and old releases here at GOG). Too early to say on this one.
Turn to releasing extras on retail PC releases (not just handhelds), and drop the obscene prices new games sell at here in Aus and I'll build a little shrine in their honour. The dog will probably eat it, but the thought is there.
Post edited July 28, 2009 by Ois
Posted July 28, 2009
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klaymen: So "new anti-piracy tool".
Do they think that delaying the release of cracks by a few days (at best) will be such a big deal?

I forget the source, but it was said by one developer that delaying the release of crack by one week is considered good enough.
Posted July 28, 2009
Yeah i've read quotes from several publishers saying that first week piracy is the biggest problem for them
Posted July 28, 2009
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Aliasalpha: Yeah i've read quotes from several publishers saying that first week piracy is the biggest problem for them

And yet they still release games in one place a week before they do in another. Hello mr. Publisher? Have you heard of the internet? If a game is available anywhere, it's available everywhere.
Posted July 28, 2009
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klaymen: So "new anti-piracy tool".
Do they think that delaying the release of cracks by a few days (at best) will be such a big deal?
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Catshade: I forget the source, but it was said by one developer that delaying the release of crack by one week is considered good enough.

http://www.capcom-unity.com/sven/blog/2008/09/09/questions_about_drm (Perhaps)
Relic has said this, too. It seems to be the general motivation for DRM. I think that's one of the misconceptions about it, maybe..they don't put it on there for people like us that know their way around torrent sites..it's for, well..stupid people (many of which can still be found on torrent sites) -- bansama has a great post about this here.
However some companies like Capcom and BioWare are clever with it..I couldn't get a pirated version of DMC4 working for this reason, and can't crack my legit version still -- they put in bugs to trigger if all the necessary files and whatnot are not present. Similar story with Mass Effect. I think a disk check combined with tripwires like this is honestly a great system..the legit version then overall is more appealing..at least to anyone with sense.
Well, the downside to this is many pirates are going to play the pirated version and think it's buggy, which is, potentially, a lost sale (even if there's a demo I've noticed many pirates are stupid assholes and pirate the game anyway for extended playtime) -- you can put it out there in the community what's supposed to happen but I'd bet most of the pirates will never know..cause they're pirates. Some kind of error message or something, if possible, would be best, perhaps.
Post edited July 28, 2009 by chautemoc
Posted July 28, 2009
Thats the same problem with movies, no need for bullshit region codes if they just did simultaneous theatrical & DVD releases
Posted July 28, 2009
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TheCheese33: Every copy of the game will come with your own midget. He will watch you while you handle the product, and if you do anything with it that even resembles cracking and uploading it, he'll bite your leg and won't let go until you halt all progress and destroy your current progress into doing the dirty deed. Piracy will be reduced to 0% in no time!
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Catshade: And if you buy the more expensive Collectors Edition, you'll get a slightly larger midget!

No, you get a midget of a different gender.
Posted July 28, 2009
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chautemoc: However some companies like Capcom and BioWare are clever with it..I couldn't get a pirated version of DMC4 working for this reason, and can't crack my legit version still -- they put in bugs to trigger if all the necessary files and whatnot are not present. Similar story with Mass Effect. I think a disk check combined with tripwires like this is honestly a great system..the legit version then overall is more appealing..at least to anyone with sense.

I cracked my copy of Mass Effect. The first few cracks had some trips that were triggered, like occasionally permanently overheating weapons or problems with the travel map, though after a while a perfectly working crack was made. I used the crack because I didn't want to deal with limited activation and such though. At least now they've made a revoke tool for it.
Posted July 28, 2009
I'd buy games just for the midgets! I'd keep them as pets and when I had enough I'd yoke them together and have them pull me on a sled out to uni!
They'd also be wearing matching outfits
With top hats
Posted July 28, 2009
Fancy DRM trickery will only work for so long because the more hotly anticipated a game is the harder the release groups will work to be the first to successfully crack it, even if it takes several attempts. Throwing a new DRM system into the equation serves only to make their victory all the more worthwhile.
If Ubisoft's "tool" turns out to be some sort of physical device it will still not stop cracking for long; virtual drives are accurate enough to be able to deceive older versions of popular DRM systems into thinking the mounted image is a genuine disc in a physical drive, and the same principles would be applied when making a virtual dongle program.
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Aliasalpha: Thats the same problem with movies, no need for bullshit region codes if they just did simultaneous theatrical & DVD releases

That would totally kill off theatres! Many people prefer to watch movies in the comfort of their own home, and it's also substantially cheaper. Sure, the big-screen experience is great, but a ticket costs each adult more than the cost of a new release DVD rental--and a DVD can be watched by any number of people while always costing the same amount. Delaying the DVD release ensures those who want to see the movie will do so in a theatre and then rent or buy the DVD if they liked it, which in the end results in more money going to the entertainment industry.
Post edited July 28, 2009 by Arkose
Posted July 28, 2009
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Aliasalpha: Thats the same problem with movies, no need for bullshit region codes if they just did simultaneous theatrical & DVD releases
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Arkose: That would totally kill off theatres!

Sorry, bad phrasing there. I meant to say simultaneous theatrical releases around the world followed a few months later by simultaneous DVD releases. Basically remove the pointless delays to market that do nothing for the industry but give one more incentive to pirate stuff instead of paying for it
Posted July 28, 2009
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Catshade: And if you buy the more expensive Collectors Edition, you'll get a slightly larger midget!

*slams down an extra $50*
SOLD!
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