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wpegg: Hostile yes. Previously proven incompetent I'm not so sure. I don't recall any other security breaches, but then there were so many floating around. It was just their inability to cope with server load that pissed everyone off.
I don't recall any notable security breaches from Ubisoft, but was thinking more along the lines of the problems that plagued their UPlay system. In general it's been my experience that if an organization isn't willing to put in the resources to get the public-facing part of their IT infrastructure working smoothly then it's a good bet that that same lack of care can be found in the rest of their systems behind the scenes.
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Elenarie: Would be so much fun to see your face if GOG gets hacked.
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Nirth: We have DRM-free games here you know? I don't know about most people here but I download them all in case I would lose the account or GOG would go bankrupt.

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dirtyharry50: To think some game company is above being broken into just because they try not to be is simply not realistic.
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Nirth: Then how do you explain how Sony managed to leave their customers' passwords unencrypted on their servers? Sony isn't Ubisoft but both are international, multi-billion dollar game corporations. I know it's stupid to assume that it was automatically Ubisoft's fault because hackers are clever or it can happen to anyone but there are standards to up hold.

It's like this. I blame the hackers for the intrusion but I still believe it's Ubisoft's responsibility to keep some security protocols to protect customer information. If they don't, a customer has every right to be angry with Ubisoft.
My point was, no company is immune and therefore neither is Ubisoft. An intrusion taking place does not necessarily mean there was negligence on the part of the victim of the intrusion.

I do not make any attempt to explain nor defend SONY's failures.

I'm not trying to say it is okay for companies to be careless, quite the opposite. I'm trying to say that even with the best of care, these things can still happen and we cannot always assume it was a failure of the company to try and protect itself.
I don't believe Steam have ever had a major incident like this that required they send out emails telling users to change their passwords (tell me if I'm wrong) so they must be doing something right.
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Crosmando: I don't believe Steam have ever had a major incident like this that required they send out emails telling users to change their passwords (tell me if I'm wrong) so they must be doing something right.
I think Steam's forums (or something) did get breached, as Gabe himself posted a public apology
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KneeTheCap: I think Steam's forums (or something) did get breached, as Gabe himself posted a public apology
Hey man, your avatar. That wouldn't be Tony Lockett would it?
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KneeTheCap: I think Steam's forums (or something) did get breached, as Gabe himself posted a public apology
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Crosmando: Hey man, your avatar. That wouldn't be Tony Lockett would it?
To be honest, I have no clue. I just picked something that shows a dislocated kneecap :D

(Sorry for the off-topic, all)
"It’s important to note that no personal payment information is stored with Ubisoft, so fortunately all credit/debit card information was safe from this intrusion."

i wonder how much of that is true, or are they saying for to save their ass in future
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KneeTheCap: To be honest, I have no clue. I just picked something that shows a dislocated kneecap :D

(Sorry for the off-topic, all)
Lol, it's cool just noticed he's wearing the jersey of team I support :P
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sydney_Swans
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Crosmando: I don't believe Steam have ever had a major incident like this that required they send out emails telling users to change their passwords (tell me if I'm wrong) so they must be doing something right.
"The recent Steam hack may have compromised users' credit card numbers and other personal information, according to a message sent to Steam users from Gabe Newell, head of Valve. The company is certain the hackers gained access to a database with this encrypted information, but don't know if they took it or will be able to crack its encryption[..]

The compromised database held information such as user names, hashed and salted passwords, game purchases, e-mail addresses, billing addresses and encrypted credit card information, according to Newell. "

That was the description of the steam hack in Nov 2011 from ars technica.
F*** you Hackers! You Nutbags!
Post edited July 02, 2013 by fr33kSh0w2012
This is vaguely ironic. I was just about to go make an account to redeem a copy of Blood Dragon that came with my video card. >.>
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P1na: They're not making a good job of convincing me to change my mind about Uplay, to say the least...
Anything that purposely misspells its name instantly earns my contempt!

Edit: I just realised that the "U" is not "you", but short for "Ubisoft". Please don't hurt me! ;)
Post edited July 02, 2013 by Dzsono
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oasis789: best not to use words at all, some combo of lower upper numbers and symbols
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Vestin: Not necessarily...
If an algorithm were to search every word or word combination possible, in every language out there, including words that do not count in Scrabble, such as proper names (especially of fictional characters, even more so for ones from obscure fantasy novels or personal roleplaying experience)... There's just no way, might as well search every letter combination. On a positive note - this would eliminate the need to check for special characters ! Unless someone went with "wow,theconceptofśunjataisabsolutelyrad!" or anything of this sort.
The usual response to XKCD style passphrases is this paper: http://www.jbonneau.com/doc/BS12-USEC-passphrase_linguistics.pdf

It is also specifically discussed by crackers here: http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/05/how-crackers-make-minced-meat-out-of-your-passwords/3/
This kind of stuff happens to a lot of companies but Ubi had serious hate issues and it stacks. I have no uplay games but it becomes annoying to juggle passwords like a clown.
Great, I haven't used Uplay garbage since my computer was infected and I had to wipe it thanks to their lack of security months ago, and now, I have to change my stupid password because of another security failure. I don't even use the garbage after what their 'service' did to my beautiful PC machine. Word of advice to Ubi: Higher more security staff! Dummkopfs.