You're free to discuss DRM as much as you want, I in no way can tell you not to do that, but there's really no point in doing that in threads where it seems out of place, just ruins the discussion for other posters.

Those 2 weren't spamming imo..... btw (to me) spamming means repeatedly posting about something that is possibly on-topic or posting singular posts that are offtopic, not posting something (technically) ontopic(though undesired by OP of course) once and then stopping.


Not just to you but everyone in general.....but why is it that when people share your own opinions and likes/dislikes(And post alot about it) is it accepted and tolerated(seemingly) more than people who don't share them posting their own views alot?

Alot of people(I noticed) in here complain about people moaning about steam, but not all those who praise steam constantly almost as often....now why is that? Why bring up one group as annoying and not the other, if both post as much and to nearly the same amount of threads?

Again, to me it's all about wanting or needing something to complain about in the end, and the ones who don't share our own views are always easier targets/more acceptable to single out, it seems.

Call it trolling then, it still doesn't do anything to progress the discussion about the topic.

And about your previous post, skipping over some thing is really not that simple. Take Neowin as an example, in almost every thread, you can find many offtopic posts about how company X is better than company Y, totally unrelated to the topic that is being discussed. The only way to get rid of them was to stop visiting Neowin's forums (becausee seriously, who would like to read about how Apple is better than Microsoft or the other way around in a Firefox version comparison based on OSes).

I don't want to see that happen with GOG. The forums have been absolutely amazing over the years (pretty much the best people I've met online hang around here, and the only friends on my Steam list are actually people that I've met from these forums), but seriously, the whole DRM vs anti-DRM vs /care-about-DRM have been getting out of hand lately.

I find it amusing that even this thread becomes a discussion about DRM...

but point taken. I doubt it is going to change anything. For a number of people, the reason that come to GOG is because of DRM free, and so they will naturally associate GOG forums with the DRM debate.

Maybe there should be a separate board. General Discussion and DRM Discussion. Oh and Steam discussion probably deserves it's own board too.

Again, that's not what the discussion is about. A dozen people are discussing the music and sounds of Ubisoft's latest title. Then a few people come up and fill the thread with posts about how the hate Ubisoft's DRM (even though the thread specifically said that the discussion is not about DRM). How is that expressing your view about the topic being discussed?

If it's a STEAM game then technically talking about steam(usually while also talking about the game) is technically borderline on-topic....regardless if you don't share their opinion.

Example:

Gamer1: I love this game, but the steam port/version is bugged to hell and back.....of course alot of steam games seem to be that way.
Gamer 2: If you're having trouble with the game I am glad to help...did you check for solutions on the steam forums?
Gamer1: another reply...etc
Gamer 3: New reply...etc

In this case the first bit of the first post by Gamer1 is on-topic as it relates to how the game performs on Steam. The second bit of the same post.....not really....but with the first bit the post(on the whole) is technically on-topic as it brings up a valid point.

It seems that word doesn't mean what you think it means(Princess Bride reference ftw). That wasn't trolling in that thread's case...not by a long shot.

Also again, (imo) it is simple. You find a post that you want to read and read it, and if it says something you dislike you either: skip reading the rest of it and go to the next bit or post, close the page, read it and reply. You don't read something you don't want to(Seemingly as if against your own will.) then complain about being "forced" to read it later. No one is holding a gun to your head, after all.

(Not to be rude, just my two cents, but: If you can't help not reading or doing stuff you claim to not like then you need to have your mental faculties checked, as those are signs of an obsessive-compulsive disorder/complex or similar possibly rearing it's ugly head. Because to me it seems you either lack the ability to just not do or experience things you don't want to, or are one of those people[You know the type....ones who purposefully submit themselves to things they dislike so as to be able to complain about it later on.[ I loathe so much.)

The onus(in the end) is also on you to be able to read and do only what you want to, and filter out the rest....it's not just on those posting.

I am actually talking about the things occurring in Frater's thread, not the main D3 thread....sorry if any miscommunication occured. Are you sure we're even talking about the same thread? Because it sounds like we might not be.

(If you ARE talking about Frater's thread though, I still say you're WAY off on describing the amount of DRM related discussion in it.)

Ever since you saw what? The title of the thread? You shouldn't judge a thread by it's title. NEXT TIME CLICK ON THE THREAD AND READ A LITTLE BIT before judging it!!! There was no irrational Steam hate from me in my thread.

This reminds me of that South Park episode, in which Cartman and a few others were chatting on ChatRoulette.

Even if a post is useless, you still have to read about it to find out whether it is useless or not.

If it's a short post? Possibly. But not if it's a longer post. Within a line or two you should be able to get the gist of longer winded posts(as to what direction they're going in or going to be going in.) and decide whether to mentally move on or not. It's like saying you "need" to watch an entire tv show to determine if you want to watch it(that episode) or not before possibly moving on to something else.

I usually skim threads, reading a few words at the top/middle/bottom of every post and mentally determining if I should focus my full attention to that post/reading or replying/etc before moving to the next. I do all this within a few seconds per post(skimming I mean.), usually.

First, if you can't stomach anti-DRM discussion, this is clearly a wrong forum for you, knowing that GOG's one of the main selling points is lack of DRM.

But it is quite hard to pinpoint the discussions where talk about DRM is completely irrelevant. For instance, whenever GOG releases a new game, certain people here are always quick to point out how the GOG price is too high because the same game can be had for a couple bucks cheaper on Steam or GamersGate (when they are on sale on those sites, that is), or how wrong it is that GOG releases newer games that are already available in said services too. As if they have forgotten that for many people the lack of DRM is indeed a selling point, making the bitching about the price difference etc. mostly irrelevant. So, is it wrong to take the DRM-free aspect into e.g. those discussions?

If you feel DRM-discussions should be curbed here, then I guess also the subjects which easily trigger DRM-discussions should become taboos here. For example:

- Price differences between GOG and DRM-sites.

- Whether GOG should release newer games that already exist in e.g. Steam and GG.

- Diablo 3 :)

- etc.

Then we could have a peaceful forum where people who freak out about anti-DRM discussions could also remain sane.

Ok friend I apologize you don't have to use CapLocks for emphisis

He is pissed off that a GOG member stated in the title of his thread that he wants no DRM discussion in his thread and people still posted about DRM in his thread. So those people were behaving like trolls or can't read. Elenarie isn't mad because people have anti DRM discussions here at GOG.

Unneededly pissed, imo. It was two posts and nothing else came of it, yet OP acted like the whole thread was full of real trolls posting in all caps & 100% off-topic. Also the posts in question were civilly written and not trolling(or having like trolls) in the slightest.(One of which wasn't even discussing the D3 DRM at all, just stating that the user thought it was impossible to have a discussion about D3 without dicussing the DRM.)

Regardless, OP could've written their initial reply better, imo....the way it was written it was as if someone pissed in OP's coffee so OP decided to kick a dog that barked at them later in the day in response.