This is true in my case. I have a large number of games on Steam (close to 200.Yes i know. blah blah but aint no fanboi), mostly either bought on sale (due to the low prices on sale - which other DD providers or retail couldnt match, or it was really a very good deal) or the game required activation on Steam (no other option DRM or otherwise) etc.

Whispered World is a nice game if you playing with a walkthrough and ignore the fact that the only original gameplay mechanic (well, a rip-off of Torin's Passage) is used very sparingly. Also, the cutscenes between the chapters are just lazy.

As it's often the case when it comes to 'foreign' games being translated into English. As much as I like what Pendulo Studios does I swear pretty much most humor goes out of the window due to improper translation. That's also where subtitles with original voice-overs would make perfect sense since you're not limited in what you can display in text form.

Much like English dubbing of foreign movies never works out very well or vice versa. The original product always tends to be for the better.

Once again, I agree completely. Your posts make too much sense to me :)

I think the issue Magnum takes with people bashing Steam is that false sense of elitism that many people have. As in "only a DRM free gamer is a real gamer".

When it comes to big companies people tend to have double standards. Every little thing Steam does is inherently evil and intented to destroy gaming as a whole (pretty much the same with EA and Blizzard). While GOG can release broken games (Hello, Interstate '76 and Kings Bounty and Dungeon Keeper II) and people still defend it (which I also do, but I never made a secret of my GOG fanboyism).

Bashing Steam is "cool" and "hip". But the problem is, unless you accept a service and complain about real drawbacks and problems, nobody will take you seriously. All the "I don't own my games" and "Steam can take them away without any notice" talk is hurtful at best.

For whatever you might personally think of Steam, it made Digital Downloads big on PC, cut out a lot of the "unecessary fat"when it comes to selling (The pub/dev of a game sold at 50% of still gets more money of the sale than of a full price retail, and I'm not even taking the additional sales into account), brought indies to the "CoD fratboy audience" and was the only effective anti-piracy meassure that actually worked (and in a good way, by making games affordable for low income groups).

For me personally, I will be moving away from DRM free games, because they usually lack the services I am used to (autopatching, sorted online storage, well, pretty much everything a client offers). While I still don't "like" Steam it has greatly enhanced my gaming experience.

I don't care about how I will look, but I don't make up arsine drawbacks of Steam to justifiy me from staying away. I might no longer be the "cool kid" on the schoolyard, but I honestly don't care.

But if gamers (not only related to Steam, but in general) would get their blown up head out of their entitled ass, we could actually be heard by the industry.

Holy hell, that's some really good news!

And that means that I'l buy a second copy of Trine as well.

I admit I'm guilty of not even bothering to read the full discussion this time, just your post, but what makes me so reluctant to read these Steam-Ya-or-Nay discussions is that I think it goes both ways. Elitism and arrogance are one of my main pet peeves, too, and yes, often there's a lot of entitlement mentality involved. The thing is, it's not just the DRM-free supporters who display such off-putting behavior.

Why can't we accept that supporting Steam and choosing not to are both valid options for a gamer, depending on your preferences? I have no issues with people who support Steam accepting the pro and cons and I don't belittle their reasons for it, but in the same way I don't think it's right to belittle the reasons why others wish for DRM-free alternatives either. Just as the idea that a Steam user is not a real gamer never occured to me and seems quite absurd, I think the same goes for the idea that someone who dislikes Steam only does so to be "hip" or "cool".

There is an actual difference between getting DRM-free installers and requiring a client to install or run your games, and I could just as well say that noone will take you seriously if you claim the difference is insignificant, just because it doesn't bother you personally.

I hate "F*ck Steam!" comments as much as the next sensible gamer, but I'm also allergic to comments who seem to belittle the preference for DRM-free games and the reasons for it.

PS: My intention is not to rekindle the fire of these discussions, if it evolves into something like that again, please punch my in the face (if you meet me on the street). ;) I also hope you don't take it personally, SimonG, more often than not I really like your comments; but since you recently felt insulted by Marcin's comments about milking gamers, perhaps you can relate that I'm a bit annoyed about the belittling of my preferences, too (because yes, maybe I'm a relict but I really like to "own" my games and be able to install them on offline PCs).