Posted June 26, 2014
skeletonbow
Galaxy 3 when?
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liquidsnakehpks
sons of liberty
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From India
Posted June 26, 2014
Torchlight 2 is the sort of game you don't want to play single player , there is no heavy story going on , your best experience playing it up online with a lot of others , i am talking PvE , with at least 3 other players , The game really comes alive better loot , harder monsters , quick pathing etc.
Gog galaxy should accelerate the chances of game coming out here
Gog galaxy should accelerate the chances of game coming out here
HijacK
One man army
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From Romania
Posted June 26, 2014
LOL Eu acum locuiesc in Arizona, Statele Unite, dar am lasat Romania pe GOG ca mandrie, sau amintire ca sa stiu de unde am plecat. :D
mqstout
Pittsburgh cis-gay-male
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From United States
liquidsnakehpks
sons of liberty
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From India
Posted June 26, 2014
i prefer playing in random open online servers than LAN play , the last thing i want to do is play on lan
mqstout
Pittsburgh cis-gay-male
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From United States
Posted June 26, 2014
That may be you, but lack of something Galaxy-like has nothing to do with TL2 not being on GOG. The DRM does.
OlivawR
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From Italy
Posted June 26, 2014
Are they still alive at Runic? As successful their games are as poor their communication is.
Pompfinebara
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skeletonbow
Galaxy 3 when?
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hummer010
Crazy Penguin
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From Canada
Posted June 26, 2014
skeletonbow: Saying that Galaxy has no effect whatsoever in the equation is overwhelmingly short sighted and IMHO out of touch with what developers expect from a modern gaming platform.
I was short-sighted on that. I pretty took the "if DRM is the only hold up, then galaxy won't change that" point of view. I really like the /platform/ aspect of steam, so I'm pretty excited about what Galaxy might bring. I've gone as far as writing a python app to mimic the steam library aspect with my non-steam games. It's pretty rudimentary, so hopefully Galaxy can improve on that.
skeletonbow
Galaxy 3 when?
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Posted June 26, 2014
hummer010: I was short-sighted on that. I pretty took the "if DRM is the only hold up, then galaxy won't change that" point of view.
I really like the /platform/ aspect of steam, so I'm pretty excited about what Galaxy might bring. I've gone as far as writing a python app to mimic the steam library aspect with my non-steam games. It's pretty rudimentary, so hopefully Galaxy can improve on that.
Indeed, and I think once it has been released and stabilized, went through a few update cycles to fix things and respond to customer feedback and developer feedback it should be well on its way. I think the forums will be rife with cheering and praise that ends up drowning out all the "game clients suck, it's the path to satan blah blah <puke>" :)I really like the /platform/ aspect of steam, so I'm pretty excited about what Galaxy might bring. I've gone as far as writing a python app to mimic the steam library aspect with my non-steam games. It's pretty rudimentary, so hopefully Galaxy can improve on that.
tfishell
Remorse: The List, if you like FPS psych horror
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Posted June 26, 2014
+1.
Geez, I had asked other GOGgers a similar question, "Could Galaxy entice devs to release other highly-desired games on GOG?" and the answer was basically "no", but you're giving some good reasons why it could. Hard to know who to believe, but you provide some excellent reasons.
EDIT: Also, if you don't mind me asking, how do you have the patience to write so much? ;) I've just noticed a pattern.
Geez, I had asked other GOGgers a similar question, "Could Galaxy entice devs to release other highly-desired games on GOG?" and the answer was basically "no", but you're giving some good reasons why it could. Hard to know who to believe, but you provide some excellent reasons.
EDIT: Also, if you don't mind me asking, how do you have the patience to write so much? ;) I've just noticed a pattern.
Post edited June 26, 2014 by tfishell
Quasebarth
No Eager Man
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Posted June 26, 2014
tfishell: +1.
Geez, I had asked other GOGgers a similar question, "Could Galaxy entice devs to release other highly-desired games on GOG?" and the answer was basically "no", but you're giving some good reasons why it could. Hard to know who to believe, but you provide some excellent reasons.
EDIT: Also, if you don't mind me asking, how do you have the patience to write so much? ;) I've just noticed a pattern.
The question to me seems however, why should out of sudden a developer want to use a different launcher than Steam while they would still have to create a different build. Companies that want to focus on Steam will continue to do so without the hassle of supporting different builds. Geez, I had asked other GOGgers a similar question, "Could Galaxy entice devs to release other highly-desired games on GOG?" and the answer was basically "no", but you're giving some good reasons why it could. Hard to know who to believe, but you provide some excellent reasons.
EDIT: Also, if you don't mind me asking, how do you have the patience to write so much? ;) I've just noticed a pattern.
Could it be that Galaxy uses the same builds as Steam? I don't know much about programming, but I doubt it somehow. With the features announced for Galaxy, I don't see much of an advantage for the developers, but rather for the customer to get all the features "only" Steam offers and still buy a game from GOG and enjoy playing with your friends who bought the game somewhere else. To me it looks as if a developer supports Galaxy it will be even more work for them because they have to implement those otherwise Steam-exclusive features to work on Galaxy as well..
We will have to wait and see.
Post edited June 26, 2014 by Quasebarth
skeletonbow
Galaxy 3 when?
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Posted June 26, 2014
tfishell: +1.
Geez, I had asked other GOGgers a similar question, "Could Galaxy entice devs to release other highly-desired games on GOG?" and the answer was basically "no", but you're giving some good reasons why it could. Hard to know who to believe, but you provide some excellent reasons.
EDIT: Also, if you don't mind me asking, how do you have the patience to write so much? ;) I've just noticed a pattern.
I've got a lot of experience with community interaction for the last 2 decades, primarily in the open source community but elsewhere as well. I generally write in a manner that expresses my thoughts more completely and hopefully leaving less room for mis-interpretations and mis-assumptions getting it all out in one or two shots rather than a prolonged discussion that can go on for a long time clarifying and reclarifying, etc. Also anticipating what someone's response might be and trying to cover that from the start rather than coming back to it later on. So I tend to write more all at once, but less overall on a given topic taken over time. Basically larger granularity. :) Geez, I had asked other GOGgers a similar question, "Could Galaxy entice devs to release other highly-desired games on GOG?" and the answer was basically "no", but you're giving some good reasons why it could. Hard to know who to believe, but you provide some excellent reasons.
EDIT: Also, if you don't mind me asking, how do you have the patience to write so much? ;) I've just noticed a pattern.
Quasebarth: The question to me seems however, why should out of sudden a developer want to use a different launcher than Steam while they would still have to create a different build. Companies that want to focus on Steam will continue to do so without the hassle of supporting different builds.
Could it be that Galaxy uses the same builds as Steam? I don't know much about programming, but I doubt it somehow. With the features announced for Galaxy, I don't see much of an advantage for the developers, but rather for the customer to get all the features "only" Steam offers and still buy a game from GOG and enjoy playing with your friends who bought the game somewhere else. To me it looks as if a developer supports Galaxy it will be even more work for them because they have to implement those otherwise Steam-exclusive features to work on Galaxy as well..
We will have to wait and see.
Creating a different build isn't difficult, it usually amounts to changing a few configuration options in a project's build files and firing off the build and waiting, fixing things that break, repeating and then passing the results through quality testing. The problem is creating the code in the first place that goes into that custom build and the engineering resources that must be committed to it, and any custom maintenance that must occur on that over time. Using a set of ready to use interfaces such as what Steamworks provides and Galaxy alleviates the developer from having to do all of that heavy lifting themselves. They write less code, have less to test, and can get things to market much quicker as a result. It is certainly theoretically possible to have one single build that contains support for both platforms also and conditionally use the right one at runtime. Without Galaxy though, the company has to write all of that functionality that they'd be using Steamworks for - themselves just for the GOG version or leave it out entirely. Could it be that Galaxy uses the same builds as Steam? I don't know much about programming, but I doubt it somehow. With the features announced for Galaxy, I don't see much of an advantage for the developers, but rather for the customer to get all the features "only" Steam offers and still buy a game from GOG and enjoy playing with your friends who bought the game somewhere else. To me it looks as if a developer supports Galaxy it will be even more work for them because they have to implement those otherwise Steam-exclusive features to work on Galaxy as well..
We will have to wait and see.
Keep in mind also this is not more work for them. If they want to implement a GOG version of their game and leave out features they use on Steam they can do that now and many games do. They're not forced to write the code to have an identical or similar experience on GOG, so it is not forced work on them. But many developers likely do not want their game to be a different experience on Steam than on GOG or somewhere else, rather wanting customers to be able to buy the game anywhere and get as close to the same game with the same features as possible. If GOG doesn't offer those features and they wont consider releasing their game without those features, their only real options are to either write all the code themselves, or to not bother distributing on GOG. As it stands, some choose to write the features themselves (such as the upcoming Postal 2 update where they wrote their own achievement system and other stuff GOG doesn't have), and others choose to not bring their game(s) to GOG instead. Galaxy now gives a third option when it is available, the option to have the features and not have to write it all from scratch, and to give customers a similar experience on multiple platforms. Also, if they use crossplay, to have multiplayer that works between versions of the game sold on different platforms.
Galaxy will save developers time, money and other resources much in the exact same way Steamworks does which makes Steam a very attractive platform especially if a studio is on a tight budget.
I might at times sound like I work for GOG or something, but of course I don't... I am a long time software developer (Linux Systems Engineer previously) and when I study what GOG has announced about Galaxy so far both in videos and print, I just "get it" so to speak from a lot of my own past experience. I can read between the lines to see how Galaxy would appeal to me myself if I were developing a game right now in the same way Steamworks does for so many developers. It's only going to go more and more strongly towards common interfaces like this too in the future so IMHO it is paramount that GOG have something competitive to offer in this space.
Klumpen0815
+91
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