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Posted June 25, 2014
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mqstout:
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ShadowWulfe: Hey, you never know, if Galaxy delivers, then it might actually appear here.
But just in case GOG still can't get it I just now went ahead & bought this one
Post edited June 25, 2014 by Rusty_Gunn
Posted June 25, 2014
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amok: I would argue that a face huger is not a brain parasite at all. The closest you get is that both species are parasitic and both primary attacks humans via the head. However, that's all they have in common. A head crab takes over a person and uses them, while a face huger uses a body to incubate an egg. For a head crab, the head is important as it is the access to the brain, while for a face huger it is only because the mouth gives access to the chest and stomach. I do not think there is enough similarities in design or concept to say that there is any IP infringement.
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hedwards: Perhaps, but I don't think Half-life when I see the pet in TL2, I think Aliens and it's because that's where the references began.

Folks are entitled to their opinions, I just think that rewarding Valve for taking somebody else's idea and changing it just enough to slide past courts is something that we shouldn't be rewarding with their own IP rights.
that's just your opinion though, personally I did not make any connection between a face huger and a head crab before this thread - they are just too different.
Post edited June 25, 2014 by amok
Posted June 25, 2014
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Rusty_Gunn: But just in case GOG still can't get it I just now went ahead & bought this one
So you bought a DRMed product. Thank you for doing your part in making the world a worse place for the rest of us.
Posted June 25, 2014
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bioshark: I am really wanting to play Torchlight 2, but I don't know how much time I should wait for it to come to GOG, if it will ever come here.

Currently it's on summer sale on Steam for just under 5 -Euro, but my conscience doesn't let me make this step, knowing that there is a possibility for it to arrive on GOG.

What to do...what to do....
I definitely don't want to sell my soul to those vampires...
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mqstout: I want to thank you for having a moral and an ethical stance and not rewarding DRM-enforcers with a purchase.

Sadly, it looks like we'll never get Torchlight 2. :(
That is one of the major reasons I have promised myself that I will no longer buy games on Steam (as much as possible, because I have to admit, I do own a few on Steam). I do not want to encourage DRM, and since I am more or less playing single player games, I see no reason why I should accept DRM.

Steam and publisher do a lot of other crap, like geo-lock which forces some games here in Germany to be ONLY available in German language or available with low violence only. To Steam's credit I've got a refund to one such game, because it wasn't stated clearly on the front page that if you live in Germany you get ONLY the German version of the game. (Fallout 3 GOTY is the game. After the incident, I've immediately ordered a retail version from UK, and now I am happy :) )

GOG more or less suits my philosophy of gaming and freedom of choice so I will continue to stick to them and encourage them. With all this sales lately my game queue got anyway huge, so maybe until I play them all Torchlight 2 will be available on GOG as well. :) Fingers crossed.
Post edited June 25, 2014 by bioshark
Posted June 25, 2014
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Rusty_Gunn: But just in case GOG still can't get it I just now went ahead & bought this one
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mqstout: So you bought a DRMed product. Thank you for doing your part in making the world a worse place for the rest of us.
Yes but it's not steamed & if we do get TL2 here I'll gladly buy it again

Like with VTMB I have plans to host a GOG version giveaway equal to the price I paid to pay for my 'sin'
Post edited June 25, 2014 by Rusty_Gunn
Posted June 25, 2014
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hedwards: Perhaps, but I don't think Half-life when I see the pet in TL2, I think Aliens and it's because that's where the references began.

Folks are entitled to their opinions, I just think that rewarding Valve for taking somebody else's idea and changing it just enough to slide past courts is something that we shouldn't be rewarding with their own IP rights.
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amok: that's just your opinion though, personally I did not make any connection between a face huger and a head crab before this thread - they are just too different.
Sigh, which brings us back to the original question about why Valve would have any right to a creature that's clearly based upon the Face huggers from Alien.
Posted June 25, 2014
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Rusty_Gunn: Yes but it's not steamed & if we do get TL2 here I'll gladly buy it again
It may not be Steam, but it's *STILL* DRMed, so you're rewarding a company with money for an anticonsumerist practice, encouraging them [and others] to make sure their next products are similarly fucked.
Posted June 25, 2014
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Rusty_Gunn: Yes but it's not steamed & if we do get TL2 here I'll gladly buy it again
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mqstout: It may not be Steam, but it's *STILL* DRMed, so you're rewarding a company with money for an anticonsumerist practice, encouraging them [and others] to make sure their next products are similarly fucked.
What do you think of the idea I forgot to put in initially?

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Like with VTMB I have plans to host a GOG version giveaway equal to the price I paid to pay for my 'sin' "
Posted June 25, 2014
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amok: I would argue that a face huger is not a brain parasite at all.
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tinyE: True but it does deliver the parasite.

Of course the headcrab takes over the human while the face hugger just uses it which in turn may rule out the headcrab as being a parasite period.
this fluke takes over ant bodies and is considered a parasite.
the oatmeal even did a comic
Post edited June 25, 2014 by Crewdroog
Posted June 25, 2014
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ShadowWulfe: Hey, you never know, if Galaxy delivers, then it might actually appear here.
No chance at the moment , even with Galaxy , since Torchlight II has DRM and GOG stance is DRM-Free games ; it's the opposite.

The only way to the game appears here , it would be the devs accept to remove the DRM. I don't deny that's a possibility in the future though

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mqstout: It may not be Steam, but it's *STILL* DRMed, so you're rewarding a company with money for an anticonsumerist practice, encouraging them [and others] to make sure their next products are similarly fucked.
Count me in the people who bought the game on the Runic website, and what ? You are not happy ?, i don't like people trying to give some lessons to others. It's the devs who are to blame NOT the customers...sigh..

I would have preferred no DRM of course, but i wouldn't bought this product if the DRM was really intrusive,
Post edited June 25, 2014 by DyNaer
Posted June 25, 2014
I was jazzed about buying Torchlight 2 because it is such a great game, but now I'm equally happy about getting it because it pisses off that guy so much. :P
Posted June 25, 2014
I actually regret buying it on Steam the other day. Given my backlog, I should have waited for GOG to get it.
Posted June 25, 2014
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bioshark: I was afraid that TLII has some kind of DRM implemented, and now the post from tinyE confirms it. It's the worst kind of DRM...the one that forces you to log-in. I hate it. And on top of that, I only get a limited number of installs? How stupid is that....

I am starting to be more and more convinced that I will not buy it. And this time it's not Steam's fault, unfortunately the developer/publisher seems to push me in this direction.
Login is only required in order to access Runic's multiplayer matchmaking service. It isn't needed for single-player. Not sure if there is a LAN mode or not but I think there is. No idea about install limitations, I've only installed it once.

I think if Runic had any plans to release the game on GOG though that they would have done it a long long time ago. Might show up here at some point perhaps but probably only some amount of time after GOG Galaxy is available and provides many of the feature parity the game uses Steamworks for (achievements and whatnot), and of course only then if they are willing to go DRM-free. Runic are ultimately the only ones that could answer the question about whether they would bring the game here and under what conditions though.

Having said that, I gave up on waiting for it to come here to GOG and got it back in Nov. It's the game with my highest number of hours logged on Steam ever since and was well worth it. Seen it as low as $4.99 on sales around online, and that can be tracked on isthereanydeal.com to get the best price.
Post edited June 25, 2014 by skeletonbow
Posted June 25, 2014
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DyNaer:
Aw snap, didn't realize it was so serious. Ah well, someday, maybe.
Posted June 25, 2014
Looks like it is $4.99 on Steam ATM: [url=http://isthereanydeal.com/#/page:game/info?plain=torchlightii]http://isthereanydeal.com/#/page:game/info?plain=torchlightii[/url]
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