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Nothing on this planet is as mind-numbingly useless as a search engine toolbar polluting your browser's interface.

Thus I post this warning. I just used Microsoft's Direct X Web Installer (in an attempt to solve an issue with Civ 5 freezing up) to make sure my versions of Direct X was up to snuff. Everything worked fine. No worries.

HOWEVER, had I not been paying attention I would have missed the checkbox that was conveniently pre-checked to install the Bing Toolbar in my browser.

I expect that Yahoo Messenger wants to sneak the Yahoo Toolbar into my otherwise pristine browser. I look for these things when I'm adding or updating a variety of software. I even expect Microsoft to try and clog up my system with shovel-ware if I download their ridiculous Messenger package.

But hiding toolbar loaders in driver updates or the like... well, why not just jam a bunch of malware into a service pack?

Anyway, if you update Direct X anytime soon... watch out for the Bing Toolbar loader.
Valve let those folks distribute Gator (actual adware/malware) with Gunman Chronicles. I'm pretty sure that takes the cake.
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HoneyBakedHam: Nothing on this planet is as mind-numbingly useless as a search engine toolbar polluting your browser's interface.

Thus I post this warning. I just used Microsoft's Direct X Web Installer (in an attempt to solve an issue with Civ 5 freezing up) to make sure my versions of Direct X was up to snuff. Everything worked fine. No worries.

HOWEVER, had I not been paying attention I would have missed the checkbox that was conveniently pre-checked to install the Bing Toolbar in my browser.

I expect that Yahoo Messenger wants to sneak the Yahoo Toolbar into my otherwise pristine browser. I look for these things when I'm adding or updating a variety of software. I even expect Microsoft to try and clog up my system with shovel-ware if I download their ridiculous Messenger package.

But hiding toolbar loaders in driver updates or the like... well, why not just jam a bunch of malware into a service pack?

Anyway, if you update Direct X anytime soon... watch out for the Bing Toolbar loader.
It's unfortunate so many try to sneak in this crap. Adobe tries to sneak in the yahoo toolbar as well when installing acrobat reader. At one time java used to try and sneak an openoffice install in as well. Stuff like this has made me always cliick on custom installation for everything just to make sure nothing sneaks in.
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HoneyBakedHam: Nothing on this planet is as mind-numbingly useless as a search engine toolbar polluting your browser's interface.

Thus I post this warning. I just used Microsoft's Direct X Web Installer (in an attempt to solve an issue with Civ 5 freezing up) to make sure my versions of Direct X was up to snuff. Everything worked fine. No worries.

HOWEVER, had I not been paying attention I would have missed the checkbox that was conveniently pre-checked to install the Bing Toolbar in my browser.

I expect that Yahoo Messenger wants to sneak the Yahoo Toolbar into my otherwise pristine browser. I look for these things when I'm adding or updating a variety of software. I even expect Microsoft to try and clog up my system with shovel-ware if I download their ridiculous Messenger package.

But hiding toolbar loaders in driver updates or the like... well, why not just jam a bunch of malware into a service pack?

Anyway, if you update Direct X anytime soon... watch out for the Bing Toolbar loader.
I admit that I'm not as well-versed on this as I should be since I'm primarily a Mac-guy, but, isn't it (shouldn't it?) be trivial to remove these toolbars? I thought IE by now had an extension infrastructure similar to that in Firefox, which would presumably make removing or disabling them easy?
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Kabuto: At one time java used to try and sneak an openoffice install in as well. Stuff like this has made me always cliick on custom installation for everything just to make sure nothing sneaks in.
OpenOffice is an excellent open source MS Office alternative. I doubt their motives were the same as when an install bundles a toolbar. I honestly think that they believed they were doing people a favor.
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orcishgamer: Valve let those folks distribute Gator (actual adware/malware) with Gunman Chronicles. I'm pretty sure that takes the cake.
I think that was Sierra's fault. Valve only made the engine.
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Kabuto: At one time java used to try and sneak an openoffice install in as well. Stuff like this has made me always cliick on custom installation for everything just to make sure nothing sneaks in.
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MobiusArcher: OpenOffice is an excellent open source MS Office alternative. I doubt their motives were the same as when an install bundles a toolbar. I honestly think that they believed they were doing people a favor.
I think pretty much everybody is switching to LibreOffice. At this point I don't think that there's much development going on over at OO.org.
Cool. I didn't know about LibreOffice. Thanks, I'll check it out after I reformat my computer in a couple of days. I still stand by my statement though.
Post edited April 22, 2011 by MobiusArcher
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rampancy: I admit that I'm not as well-versed on this as I should be since I'm primarily a Mac-guy, but, isn't it (shouldn't it?) be trivial to remove these toolbars? I thought IE by now had an extension infrastructure similar to that in Firefox, which would presumably make removing or disabling them easy?
Not necessarily. I encountered one a couple weeks back on a relative's machine. Extensive searching online only gave instructions for turning it off; nothing was shown to actually get rid of it. I suspect the browser would have to be uninstalled and reinstalled but they were fine with just turning it off.
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rampancy: I admit that I'm not as well-versed on this as I should be since I'm primarily a Mac-guy, but, isn't it (shouldn't it?) be trivial to remove these toolbars? I thought IE by now had an extension infrastructure similar to that in Firefox, which would presumably make removing or disabling them easy?
You are correct. It is trivial to remove it.

It's more of a principle of the matter thing. It just shouldn't get installed in the first place.
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HereForTheBeer: Not necessarily. I encountered one a couple weeks back on a relative's machine. Extensive searching online only gave instructions for turning it off; nothing was shown to actually get rid of it. I suspect the browser would have to be uninstalled and reinstalled but they were fine with just turning it off.
Okay... GENERALLY it should be trivial... Exceptions happen :-)
Post edited April 22, 2011 by HoneyBakedHam
At least there was a way to turn it off. Could have been worse, I suppose.
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lukipela: OpenOffice is terrible.
Yes... Compared to a legal pad.
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rampancy: I admit that I'm not as well-versed on this as I should be since I'm primarily a Mac-guy, but, isn't it (shouldn't it?) be trivial to remove these toolbars? I thought IE by now had an extension infrastructure similar to that in Firefox, which would presumably make removing or disabling them easy?
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HereForTheBeer: Not necessarily. I encountered one a couple weeks back on a relative's machine. Extensive searching online only gave instructions for turning it off; nothing was shown to actually get rid of it. I suspect the browser would have to be uninstalled and reinstalled but they were fine with just turning it off.
Have you tried using HiJackThis! to remove the offensive toolbar? I remember it was quite effective at removing such garbage.
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MobiusArcher: OpenOffice is an excellent open source MS Office alternative. I doubt their motives were the same as when an install bundles a toolbar. I honestly think that they believed they were doing people a favor.
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lukipela: OpenOffice is terrible.
Unless you need pivot tables it works fine, so does LibreOffice.

If you want to gripe about AbiWord, I'm with you.
Skype keeps installing that Firefox plugin thing that tries to turn my math homework into phone numbers. It doesn't even ask if I want it. The toolbar's easy to disable, but really persistent in reactivating/reinstalling itself. Oh the huge manatee...