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deathknight1728: snip
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Licurg: Buy Sacrifice.
Oh you!
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BadDecissions: Poking around the internet, I find someone who says he beat the game totally solo, without even Mort.
Ha, that's sounds interesting as long as it's not the first playthrough.

I have to agree with the others, at least try to play with other characters as well but if you don't find it interesting or fitting your way of playing then restart and play only as TNO and Morte.

Speaking of the other games, if I recall right Inquisitor, Nox and Soulbringer doesn't require you to play with a party so it might be your type of playstyle. I think you get companions (at least in Inquisitor and maybe Nox) but they're AI controlled with very limited command options.
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It is not "that" hard. I beat the game on normal on my first attempt. Granted, I played as a shaper, and I did find some parts to be challenging, but if you get your behind kicked in one area, just go to another one. Unless you have placed your skillpoints in a very sub-optimal way, you should be able to beat the game.
Oh, and don't worry about your creatures dying, you can always summon new ones.

I don't think you understand. I play as a guardian, the worst class in the game, and to make it worse you have to put your skill points EXACTLY how jeff wants them to be. The games are broken and even the moderators on the site told me to start with g4. Thats got to say something.
Post edited October 07, 2012 by deathknight1728
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deathknight1728: I don't think you understand. I play as a guardian, the worst class in the game, and to make it worse you have to put your skill points EXACTLY how jeff wants them to be. The games are broken and even the moderators on the site told me to start with g4. Thats got to say something.
Ugh..Avoid Geneforge then or only play the 4th title.

Have you played Avadon? Jeff also made that, a very, very good game. The only sucky part is that you're able to play 4 different characters but with a 3-member limit in your party.
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deathknight1728: I don't think you understand. I play as a guardian, the worst class in the game, and to make it worse you have to put your skill points EXACTLY how jeff wants them to be. The games are broken and even the moderators on the site told me to start with g4. Thats got to say something.
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Nirth: Ugh..Avoid Geneforge then or only play the 4th title.

Have you played Avadon? Jeff also made that, a very, very good game. The only sucky part is that you're able to play 4 different characters but with a 3-member limit in your party.
I actually completed Avadon with no problems whatsoever, it was a great game. Hoping for the 2nd to come out. It was weird, one of the moderators said Avadon was naturally harder than the other games made by jeff.
Everybody has their own tastes.

If you find a game too difficult, modify it to how you would want it to be.

I play games to have fun, if I'm not having fun with the game, I either change it or move on.
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deathknight1728: I don't think you understand. I play as a guardian, the worst class in the game, and to make it worse you have to put your skill points EXACTLY how jeff wants them to be. The games are broken and even the moderators on the site told me to start with g4. Thats got to say something.
It is a bit crude, but from what I've read the 4th & 5th are both a lot easier to get into, and better games, but broken? I don't agree with you on that one. You are in fact the first person who I've ever heard have called it broken, and I know of plenty of people who have beaten the game (as one of the forums I frequent is a CRPG-focused forum).
And yes, guardians are generally speaking considered to be the worst, but they are not impossible to beat the game with (actually, from what I've heard, the Guardian is actually easier than the Agent on easy & normal), and the game is not that picky in how you place your points. I placed mine in a way that I suspect were rather sub-optimal (for an example, I should have spent fewer points in Mechanics & no points in missiles. Missiles was handy right at the very start, but later on I never used it, and I had plenty of living tools left over at the end of the game. Heck, had I spent more living tools, I could have gotten away with raising Str less as well).
Im going with Planescape Torment and taking Nirth's recommendation. Since I'm used to not controlling many characters in real time, this will be good. Thanks.
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deathknight1728: Im going with Planescape Torment and taking Nirth's recommendation. Since I'm used to not controlling many characters in real time, this will be good. Thanks.
Note that PS:T is a pausable real-time game. In case you need to give orders to your party members (which you really only need to cast spells), just hit space.
I wouldn't mind some newer games.

Incidentally, I'm surprised nobody seems to be jumping on you for calling the games "stupid." Not that I am; but it's been known to happen even here in the utopia of GoG. :-) Or maybe that's just for discussions that are more political in nature.

Anyway, depending upon how long you've been gaming and what you're used to, older games may seem more convoluted and not so user-friendly. And in the "old days", picking a character was pretty much not an option, at least nowhere near what we have today.

I'm guessing you just don't like older games in general. Nothing wrong with that.
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DieRuhe: I wouldn't mind some newer games.

Incidentally, I'm surprised nobody seems to be jumping on you for calling the games "stupid." Not that I am; but it's been known to happen even here in the utopia of GoG. :-) Or maybe that's just for discussions that are more political in nature.

Anyway, depending upon how long you've been gaming and what you're used to, older games may seem more convoluted and not so user-friendly. And in the "old days", picking a character was pretty much not an option, at least nowhere near what we have today.

I'm guessing you just don't like older games in general. Nothing wrong with that.
It mainly depends on if I can understand the difficulty and find a way around it. I can understand soloing my fighter/thief in BG1 and BG2. Or getting past lvl 70 in dins curse (action/rpg), or beating "The quest" an old school type roleplaying turn based game.

What bothers me is when the choices I make in a game make my characters useless and everything I do makes things worse. That has nothing to do with old games as it can happen just so often in new ones.
Post edited October 07, 2012 by deathknight1728
There's always The Witcher. Probably one of my favourite RPG's I've ever played or seen. I have to admit I did grind it somewhat, but because of that there was only one fight that I found hard, although there's one or two that require certain things to be done, which if you don't listen to the game you might not realise.
Also, I did the first playthrough on Normal, so if you went Easy... It should be a pretty easy game, but the characters themselves are what makes it worth playing.
Should add I'm not convinced on its replayability though, purely because its SO amazingly well written as a RPG, and I have difficulty relating as well to characters of mine that don't reflect at least one aspect of me.
Deathknight, have you tried the Eschalon games by Basilisk Games? If not, give them a look. Damned fine games, IMO, and I'm a big fan of the Infinity Engine games (currently running through Planescape:Torment myself) as well as Avadon and some of the 'old school' RPGs.
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deathknight1728: I find that usually what will happen is that there will be some things I like about the game, but other things that just bring the games down. Most of the problems I have with the good old game rpgs is that they are either not very fun or Ive seen better elsewhere.
Those are very unspecific complaints. All games are good at some things, and bad at others. Baldur's Gate for example (which you cite as an example of a game that you like) works well as a traditional RPG, but totally fails at pulling off an original storyline. (I feel incredibly bored each time I try to get into BG, and I tried it quite often.) Arcanum (the other game you mentioned) succeeds in creating an original setting, but fails in being stable, and polished and in luring players in.

Like these, other RPGs have good and bad aspects as well. It seems that you are focusing so much on the bad aspects that they keep you from enjoying the games. There are two ways of dealing with this: Either take (and enjoy) the games for what they are, or ask yourself why you are focusing on the negatives so much once you discovered them. Perhaps a part of you is not wanting you to play?
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Coelocanth: Deathknight, have you tried the Eschalon games by Basilisk Games? If not, give them a look. Damned fine games, IMO, and I'm a big fan of the Infinity Engine games (currently running through Planescape:Torment myself) as well as Avadon and some of the 'old school' RPGs.
Ah, I forgot about the Eschalon games. There's a 3rd one in the making and I've yet to even start the first one.