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Posted March 19, 2012
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jefequeso: Out of curiosity, what games are you thinking of that needed a bigger budget? I'd be interested in checking them out.
Stalker is actually an example all the same, believe it or not. It very nearly didn't happen at all. Even after the success of the first three games, the devs are struggling to fund the first proper sequel. So for them money is a constant concern.

As for the games I was thinking of, Precursors stands out by a country mile as the game that epitomises the sentiment "if only they had more money". Really hugely ambitious. It would have been ambitious even with a Western FPS budget behind it.

As a Stalker fan you might really like it. It's a sci-fi Stalker in a lot of ways.
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nijuu: Whats an AAAA compared to a AAA?. Is it an abbreviation? ;)
It just refers to how much of a major league game it is. Most of EA's output would be AAA, for instance. AAAA is just some new crap MS came up with. I think it's pretty clear that the indication there is that this game will be for their next console. That's the only way it can make sense.
Post edited March 19, 2012 by Navagon
Posted March 19, 2012
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Navagon: AAAA... This is just getting ridiculous now.

This would have to be for their next console. Probably a launch title. Which means that they're not going to be putting out another console for a good two years or so yet.
Expected announcement is next years E3 with a release in time for the holidays (so sep/oct) the chips are already on bulk runs at IBM though so it could be sneak released earlier...
Posted March 19, 2012
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jefequeso: Out of curiosity, what games are you thinking of that needed a bigger budget? I'd be interested in checking them out.
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Navagon: Stalker is actually an example all the same, believe it or not. It very nearly didn't happen at all. Even after the success of the first three games, the devs are struggling to fund the first proper sequel. So for them money is a constant concern.

As for the games I was thinking of, Precursors stands out by a country mile as the game that epitomises the sentiment "if only they had more money". Really hugely ambitious. It would have been ambitious even with a Western FPS budget behind it.

As a Stalker fan you might really like it. It's a sci-fi Stalker in a lot of ways.
I'll...take a look at it. Thanks.
Posted March 19, 2012
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jefequeso: Out of curiosity, what games are you thinking of that needed a bigger budget? I'd be interested in checking them out.
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Navagon: Stalker is actually an example all the same, believe it or not. It very nearly didn't happen at all. Even after the success of the first three games, the devs are struggling to fund the first proper sequel. So for them money is a constant concern.

As for the games I was thinking of, Precursors stands out by a country mile as the game that epitomises the sentiment "if only they had more money". Really hugely ambitious. It would have been ambitious even with a Western FPS budget behind it.

As a Stalker fan you might really like it. It's a sci-fi Stalker in a lot of ways.
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nijuu: Whats an AAAA compared to a AAA?. Is it an abbreviation? ;)
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Navagon: It just refers to how much of a major league game it is. Most of EA's output would be AAA, for instance. AAAA is just some new crap MS came up with. I think it's pretty clear that the indication there is that this game will be for their next console. That's the only way it can make sense.
Why bother trumpetting AAAA tho? I mean video and audio performance aside on a new console, to me, it seems all AAAA means is a higher budget to cutscene's, voice acting.... stuff thats all in AAA game..
Posted March 19, 2012
No one posted this:

http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/AAAAAAAAA

Yet?
Enjoy!
Posted March 19, 2012
It could be a game programmed entirely in AAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!.
Post edited March 19, 2012 by Skate
Posted March 19, 2012
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nijuu: Microsoft is becoming more irrelevant to games? (xbox aside).
Whats an AAAA compared to a AAA?. Is it an abbreviation? ;)
Microsoft has been irrelevant to games since they disbanded Ensemble Studios, though they will always hold a place in my heart due to the Age of Empires series, Age of Mythology included (but Age of Empires III excluded).
Posted March 19, 2012
It's about damn time. I was wondering how long I would be stuck playing AAA games. It's the 21st century, AAA games are so 2009.

We do know that we are a minority of gamers here though. Gamers who see through the advertising baloney. The majority of console owners are happy to jump on the next bandwagon.

No disrespect to them, I would probably be the same if I didn't grow up with PC gaming and discuss games in places like these boards.
Posted March 19, 2012
I am going with Viva Pinata 3
Posted March 20, 2012
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Crosmando: Microsoft has been irrelevant to games since they disbanded Ensemble Studios, though they will always hold a place in my heart due to the Age of Empires series, Age of Mythology included (but Age of Empires III excluded).
you mean irrelevant to PC gaming, right? because they've been dominating this generation of videogames, outselling most PS3 and PC exclusives.

also why do people insist on talking about AoE3 as if it were a bad game?!? it was brilliant. no wonder the Ensemble Studios had to be closed down if a incredible RTS game like AoE3 is criticised solely because it doesn't play exactly like AoE2... congratulations, you killed them.

MS have moved too far into the casual market, but their contributions to hardcore gaming this gen can't be denied: Halo, Forza, Fable and Gears are all good franchises. saying they've been irrelevant just goes to show what you know about the current gaming situation...
Posted March 20, 2012
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Navagon: When you've gone to the trouble of putting Snoop's voice and likeness into the game and you've got a Snoop Dogg soundtrack, what could possibly go wrong? Game of the motherfucking year, ma' nizzle!
Like this? http://snoopkirby2.ytmnd.com/
Posted March 20, 2012
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Crosmando: Microsoft has been irrelevant to games since they disbanded Ensemble Studios, though they will always hold a place in my heart due to the Age of Empires series, Age of Mythology included (but Age of Empires III excluded).
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Fred_DM: you mean irrelevant to PC gaming, right? because they've been dominating this generation of videogames, outselling most PS3 and PC exclusives.

also why do people insist on talking about AoE3 as if it were a bad game?!? it was brilliant. no wonder the Ensemble Studios had to be closed down if a incredible RTS game like AoE3 is criticised solely because it doesn't play exactly like AoE2... congratulations, you killed them.

MS have moved too far into the casual market, but their contributions to hardcore gaming this gen can't be denied: Halo, Forza, Fable and Gears are all good franchises. saying they've been irrelevant just goes to show what you know about the current gaming situation...
I don't mention console gaming because it's irrelevant, might as well be a different universe to PC gaming, completely different audience.

And AoEIII was a huge step down from AoEII, or even AoM, the gameplay was dumbed down considerably to appeal to a more mainstream audience, it's not as complicated, and also the graphics became generic and boring in the transition from 2D to 3D (in fact I don't think I know an RTS series that has made the transition to 3D without becoming awful).
Post edited March 20, 2012 by Crosmando
Posted March 20, 2012
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Crosmando: I don't mention console gaming because it's irrelevant, might as well be a different universe to PC gaming, completely different audience.
really?! i mean, seriously?! gaming is one big industry with several platforms. ignoring 4/5 of the market just because you don't own the platform is beyond stupid.

and how is it a completely different audience?!? there's all kinds of games on any platform. i own consoles as well as a potent gaming PC. i wouldn't want to miss out on games like Red Dead Redemption, Demon's Souls or Gran Turismo 5.

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Crosmando: And AoEIII was a huge step down from AoEII, or even AoM, the gameplay was dumbed down considerably to appeal to a more mainstream audience, it's not as complicated, and also the graphics became generic and boring in the transition from 2D to 3D (in fact I don't think I know an RTS series that has made the transition to 3D without becoming awful).
speechless... especially about the graphics when AoE 3 was pretty much the best-looking RTS game at the time and still holds up remarkably well today.

but i get: you're one of those console- and new games-haters that despise 3D graphics and are permanently stuck in 1992 mode.
Post edited March 20, 2012 by Fred_DM
Posted March 20, 2012
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Crosmando: I don't mention console gaming because it's irrelevant, might as well be a different universe to PC gaming, completely different audience.
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Fred_DM: really?! i mean, seriously?! gaming is one big industry with several platforms. ignoring 4/5 of the market just because you don't own the platform is beyond stupid.

and how is it a completely different audience?!? there's all kinds of games on any platform. i own consoles as well as a potent gaming PC. i wouldn't want to miss out on games like Red Dead Redemption, Demon's Souls or Gran Turismo 5.

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Crosmando: And AoEIII was a huge step down from AoEII, or even AoM, the gameplay was dumbed down considerably to appeal to a more mainstream audience, it's not as complicated, and also the graphics became generic and boring in the transition from 2D to 3D (in fact I don't think I know an RTS series that has made the transition to 3D without becoming awful).
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Fred_DM: speechless... especially about the graphics when AoE 3 was pretty much the best-looking RTS game at the time and still holds up remarkably well today.

but i get: you're one of those console- and new games-haters that despise 3D graphics and are permanently stuck in 1992 mode.
Best looking? That's it, "it has shiny graphics" so it's good? Tell me that in a few years time, if anything the popularity of older titles on GOG proves that 2D isometric games are timeless because they are proper games with real difficulty. The bestsellers here are all 2D RPGs, for a good reason, they still hold up as a game and not a picture book. A 3D game cannot last two years without being outdone and forgotten.
Posted March 20, 2012
Hmmm...I see.

Another Average Action Adventure?

Really...all these buzzwords and acronyms need to die.

A game is either good or bad - and that is decided by the gamers - not the production budget or advertising department. :P Silly Microsoft.
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