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Oh, I think it's my turn to tell Roman he's saying bullshit again.
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Roman5: Day 1 DLC in Portal 2
What's that supposed to even mean? There was no day 1 DLC for Portal 2, and the only DLC there was came several months later and for free.
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Roman5: Lying to community about HL episode 3 release
They never said when HL2E3 was supposed to be released. They were silent, but didn't lie.
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Roman5: Ruined TF2 with Mann Co store and F2P
Highly subjective.
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Roman5: Made a lot of people think that DRM is ok by using the most simple marketing techniques
Valve did not invent DRM, and frankly, Steam did a lot of good for PC gaming.
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Roman5: Most of their games were not made by them and are simply mods
Give one example other than very early versions of Counter-Strike. Because if you're going to argue TF2 and Portal were not made by Valve, you are retarded. I presume the same will be true for DOTA2.
I'd put my money on Paypal lol. Surprised Apple didnt make it close to the final haha
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KingofGnG: Oh, c'mon! My winning horse is already out of the competition... That's not fair! (Apple, it practically uses Chinese slaves to produce a huge amount of hi-tech garbage that needs to be re-purchase every 6 months or so....)
Best. Marketing Division. Ever. Apple doesn't have customers, it has fans. It can release whatever it wants copied of whomever it wants and those fans will spend their last kidney to get that product. They're just insanely good scumbags

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Roman5: Lying to community about HL episode 3 release
HL EP3 doesn't exist, never has, never will, and Steam hasn't changed their opinion on that in a fair while. On the plus side, if you're as jaded as I am you then should have won a bet when Duke Nukem Forever came out. :P
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bazilisek: Oh, I think it's my turn to tell Roman he's saying bullshit again.
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Roman5: Day 1 DLC in Portal 2
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bazilisek: What's that supposed to even mean? There was no day 1 DLC for Portal 2, and the only DLC there was came several months later and for free.
Hope he is not referring to Portal 2 - The Final Hours.... which is a digital book.
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bazilisek: Oh, I think it's my turn to tell Roman he's saying bullshit again.
"What's that supposed to even mean? There was no day 1 DLC for Portal 2, and the only DLC there was came several months later and for free"

Uhh...it means there was Day 1 DLC is this hard to understand?, and there was Day 1 DLC, there was a "Shop" where you could buy different items and stuff, I think it was on the disk but i dont remember exactly about that, some people might say that it doesn't affect anything since they are cosmetic items but that does not change my point

"They never said when HL2E3 was supposed to be released. They were silent, but didn't lie."

They said that Half Life episode 1 and 2 would be worked on by separate teams and come together to create Episode 3. THE ENTIRE POINT OF EPISODIC CONTENT WAS THAT THE GAMES WOULD BE MADE FASTER. Episode 2 ended on a Cliffhanger and there are many people still waiting for some sort of conclusion or closure, but no, Valve is too busy with other things

"Highly subjective"

I bought the Orange box on day 1 when it came out, TF2 today is a different game than what it was on release and not for the best, I know that this is just an "Opinion" But I think many veteran players would agree with me

"Valve did not invent DRM, and frankly, Steam did a lot of good for PC gaming"

Both of those points may be true, they however do not change my point, so that still stands

"Give one example other than very early versions of Counter-Strike. Because if you're going to argue TF2 and Portal were not made by Valve, you are retarded. I presume the same will be true for DOTA2. "

Portal, Counter Strike, Team Fortress, Day of Defeat, Left 4 Dead All of these games started off as independent products or mods and were swallowed up by Valve.

The only original IP that Valve has made is Half-Life and...Ricochet I think?
Post edited March 30, 2012 by Roman5
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Roman5: Uhh...it means there was Day 1 DLC is this hard to understand?, and there was Day 1 DLC, there was a "Shop" where you could buy different items and stuff, I think it was on the disk but i dont remember exactly about that, some people might say that it doesn't affect anything since they are cosmetic items but that does not change my point
Oh, that. And what exactly is wrong about downloadable content that's fucking free of charge? If CDprojekt RED does it, you're their fan forever and ever. If Valve does it -- EVIL!

But no, you're truly hopeless. I've played Narbacular Drop, and I've played Portal. Anyone who tries to say Portal was not a Valve game deserves nothing but to be laughed at.
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Roman5: Uhh...it means there was Day 1 DLC is this hard to understand?, and there was Day 1 DLC, there was a "Shop" where you could buy different items and stuff, I think it was on the disk but i dont remember exactly about that, some people might say that it doesn't affect anything since they are cosmetic items but that does not change my point
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bazilisek: Oh, that. And what exactly is wrong about downloadable content that's fucking free of charge? If CDprojekt RED does it, you're their fan forever and ever. If Valve does it -- EVIL!

But no, you're truly hopeless. I've played Narbacular Drop, and I've played Portal. Anyone who tries to say Portal was not a Valve game deserves nothing but to be laughed at.
Maybe you are confusing my "DLC" term for something else, so I'll clarify just in case

I was talking about this

http://www.gamago.ru/wp-content/gallery/portal-2-shop-21-04/2011-04-1900022.jpg
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Roman5: Maybe you are confusing my "DLC" term for something else, so I'll clarify just in case

I was talking about this

http://www.gamago.ru/wp-content/gallery/portal-2-shop-21-04/2011-04-1900022.jpg
Oh, so "Day 1 DLC" means "In-game store" now? You kids and your crazy vernacular these days.

Actually, Valve caught a lot of flak for that one. And yes, it was stupid, but entirely optional.
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bazilisek: Actually, Valve caught a lot of flak for that one. And yes, it was stupid, but entirely optional.
Pointless is probably more like it. Is there anything in the store that isn't simply some visual enhancement? It's all fluff. Hats, flags etc
Post edited March 30, 2012 by Pheace
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somegamer786: Either EA's gonna win or Facebook is gonna. EA due to large number of gamers but Face may get back due to the fact there's a lot of users.
Facebook was already nicked out of the competition.
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nijuu: I'd put my money on Paypal lol. Surprised Apple didnt make it close to the final haha
Paypal's been nicked out.
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somegamer786: Either EA's gonna win or Facebook is gonna. EA due to large number of gamers but Face may get back due to the fact there's a lot of users.
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Roman5: that's probably my bet as well

Also, since I don't live in the region, I'll ask just out of curiosity - Why do people hate Bank of America? What have they done to piss off so many people?
A few months ago they made a public shit storm by announcing fees for using an ATM, checking and banking accounts, and depositing checks. I think there's more to it than that but I don't recall.
Post edited March 30, 2012 by QC
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DieRuhe: Companies battle it out to see who is the worst!

http://consumerist.com/2012/03/the-8-remaining-worst-company-in-america-contenders-are-an-elite-bunch.html

Whaddya know, EA managed to squeak by Sony! lol
Meh . No Valve / Steam . :(
Hey why is Delta on there? It's a rather nice airline in my opinion...
To be honest, EA is hit and miss. Their hits are great but the misses are terrible.
Oh no! Just lost a bet...
Post edited March 30, 2012 by somegamer786
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DieRuhe: Companies battle it out to see who is the worst!

http://consumerist.com/2012/03/the-8-remaining-worst-company-in-america-contenders-are-an-elite-bunch.html

Whaddya know, EA managed to squeak by Sony! lol
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ne_zavarj: Meh . No Valve / Steam . :(
Are you just saying that 'cause you're a GOGer? Valve's games are rather good...
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somegamer786: Are you just saying that 'cause you're a GOGer? Valve's games are rather good...
There are many reasons why one can dislike, or even hate Steam. For example just by being European....
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somegamer786: Are you just saying that 'cause you're a GOGer? Valve's games are rather good...
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klaymen: There are many reasons why one can dislike, or even hate Steam. For example just by being European....
Well I'm open to opinions but many people like Valve and their games.
Post edited March 31, 2012 by somegamer786