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Posted April 21, 2014
QUICKSANDS
For now, quicksand has all but evaporated from American entertainment—rejected even by the genre directors who once found it indispensable. There isn't any in this summer's fantasy blockbuster Prince of Persia: Sands of Time or in last year's animated jungle romp Up. You won't find quicksand in The Last Airbender or Avatar, either. Giant scorpions emerge from the sand in Clash of the Titans, but no one gets sucked under. And what about Lost—a tropical-island adventure series replete with mud ponds and dangling vines? That show, which ended in May, spanned six seasons and roughly 85 hours of television airtime—all without a single step into quicksand. "We were a little bit concerned that it would just be cheesy," says the show's Emmy-winning writer and executive producer, Carlton Cuse. "It felt too clichéd. It felt old-fashioned."
Posted April 21, 2014
Parodies of scary movies. We get it Wayans brothers, you don't like cliched scary movies, but your parodies are even more cliched and just not funny.
Posted April 21, 2014
80's movie trailers are still just as awesome as 80's movies and today sucks I SWEAR DUDE.
Posted April 21, 2014
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WhiteElk: i realize my post above (#18) is off the topic. i'll edit as OP wishes. More to the threads point...

i too ponder trends. Hair and clothing styles, music and story telling, language and art, etc. i've many thoughts on this which will go unsaid here, but far as some of the why of it, i tend to think towards our ego minded species seeking change for the sake of it. Some motivations may include a feeling of elitism, sophistication. That by nature we measure our worth against others. That to feel satisfied with self we seek to judge self as superior to others.

On the micro subcultures level we certainly can see that people of one group will feel superior to others. Be it length of hair, birth place, skin color, sexual identity, religious and ideological associations, etc. All these things people use against others in ways which reek of elitism. Perhaps this works on the macro scale of civilizations as well. That even among our own affinity groupings, we must be different than those who came before.
I don't think that post was irrelevant at all. It illustrates a great point. Even when people and turned and smiled at cameras or horrible graphics displayed a show's title, sometimes we didn't like it even back then. We have a huge ability to forgive things we don't like when we're being entertained.

So, that's my two cents to add: sometimes the things weren't liked, they were just done. Sometimes to identify a genre (like the classic protagonist turning around, facing the camera and smiling), sometimes just to fill space and at other times, just as the OP said, a piece of the evolution of television.

Things started with story-telling, then theater, then movies and then television, and several different sorts of iterations on each. And sometimes we carry the dirt from previous mediums to the new.

What I love about today is the Netflix effect on the television. I really believe that it's the future. You get your entertain when you want it, how you want it. You don't need to suffer through commercials (not great on their own, horrible if you have kids) and it doesn't cost much at all. And now Netflix is making shows that don't fit the standard "Fit everything into 30 minutes -- stretch or shrink, we don't care -- it needs to be 30 minutes!" crap. Yay Netflix!
Posted April 21, 2014
Is it your excuse for releasing Santa that late ?
Then coming december I'm sure Santa will say to me "If Telika released me earlier I could have bring presents to everybody ...but ... ya know ... can't guarantee, with the eggnog and all"
And don't you dare say to us next January (when Christmas '14 will have proved to be a wreck) : "If you made Easter earlier in the year I would have swapped for a wabbit immediately."

But ok, we get it, things get older, Santa too (I suppose) ...but as iippo said : Circles. You will want to get back Santa next year, however old and drunk. Just be nice with the ribbit once you are through with it.
Post edited April 21, 2014 by Potzato
Posted April 21, 2014
Comedy Shows that have that one depressing/boring drama episode. You are a comedy show, make me laugh you a-holes.

Shows that have a retrospective/highlights of past shows. It's throwing a middle finger to your most loyal fans. They didn't feel like making a new episode, so here's a bunch of highlights from all the previous episodes...enjoy.

Having one episode of a show with singing and dancing. If I wanted to be "cultured" I'd go to the opera or watch a play.
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Posted April 21, 2014
Can you imagine a day 40-50 years from now when everyone is listening to the best robot bands in the universe, and some old 75 yr old man is yelling at the kids with their hoverboards and neural implants going, 'damn kids. Back in my day we had REAL music. We had Bieber, Gaga, and Cyrus. Whatever happened to real humans playing real music? If only Justin Bieber was still alive. He'd sing your robots to sleep with his creamy voice. Bah!'

Yeah, probably not. Hopefully not.
Posted April 21, 2014
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Emob78: Can you imagine a day 40-50 years from now when everyone is listening to the best robot bands in the universe, and some old 75 yr old man is yelling at the kids with their hoverboards and neural implants going, 'damn kids. Back in my day we had REAL music. We had Bieber, Gaga, and Cyrus. Whatever happened to real humans playing real music? If only Justin Bieber was still alive. He'd sing your robots to sleep with his creamy voice. Bah!'

Yeah, probably not. Hopefully not.
LOL
Posted April 21, 2014
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Emob78: Can you imagine a day 40-50 years from now when everyone is listening to the best robot bands in the universe
Robot band in 40-50 years. It's already happened meet Compressorhead

Apologies to Z-Machines for not including them.
Post edited April 21, 2014 by jjsimp
Posted April 21, 2014
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Emob78: Can you imagine a day 40-50 years from now when everyone is listening to the best robot bands in the universe
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jjsimp: Robot band in 40-50 years. It's already happened meet Compressorhead

Apologies to Z-Machines for not including them.
Haha, the Compressorhead drummer and its midget are awesome.

Also, combine that with Vocaloid for singing synthesis.
Post edited April 21, 2014 by Maighstir
Posted April 21, 2014
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iphgix: On Topic Don't forget about the cliched movie trailer voice overs that started with ' In a world....' I know you read that in the deep voice of Don Lafontaine - even if you did not know who Don Lafontaine was.
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Mentao: Isn't he they guy that does voiceovers for all movie trailers, the same as the guy who says: "LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLet's get ready to rumbleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!" at the start of an important boxing event?
No, that's Michael Buffer who does sporting event announcing.
Posted April 21, 2014
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jjsimp: Robot band in 40-50 years. It's already happened meet Compressorhead

Apologies to Z-Machines for not including them.
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Maighstir: Haha, the Compressorhead drummer and its midget are awesome.

Also, combine that with Vocaloid for singing synthesis.
Compressorhead's ACDC cover TNT, unfortunately no Robot Angus duckwalking across the stage in a schoolboy outfit.
Post edited April 21, 2014 by jjsimp
Posted April 21, 2014
I don't think it goes in circles. I do however think that we have a tendency to elevate the most atrocious aspects of our cultural history. 30 years from now young people will think everyone was happily watching the Kardashians and TMZ, that these shows are the pinnacle of 2010's TV which is used as evidence for our collective stupidity.

It is easy to trash the 70's and 80's today when our selective history focuses on the bland mass produced garbage without acknowledging what real music and cinema lovers of that time were actually listening to or watching.

Your grandchildren are going to say YOU personally was a Belieber because that is one of the few things they are going to know about 2nd decade.
Posted April 22, 2014
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Sufyan: I don't think it goes in circles. I do however think that we have a tendency to elevate the most atrocious aspects of our cultural history. 30 years from now young people will think everyone was happily watching the Kardashians and TMZ, that these shows are the pinnacle of 2010's TV which is used as evidence for our collective stupidity.

It is easy to trash the 70's and 80's today when our selective history focuses on the bland mass produced garbage without acknowledging what real music and cinema lovers of that time were actually listening to or watching.

Your grandchildren are going to say YOU personally was a Belieber because that is one of the few things they are going to know about 2nd decade.
And that's exactly how spin doctors and research nerds get to their prestigious positions. If they create an animal pen for you to roll around in, and you're ok with it, then they can write thesis papers talking about easy you are to control. People are being lead around by the short hairs because they were fooled into believing that independence, creative thought, freedom, and auto determinism were too hard to grasp or maintain. This is how societies are controlled. It's always been that way. It's up the individual to decide if that level of hypocrisy and social stagnation is ok with them. That might just be the last true freedom we have as human beings... the right NOT to be turned into a cultural feed bag for Wall St. and Main St. If Bieber, TMZ, and Honey Boo-Boo annoy you, don't watch or listen to them. Turn off the crap on tv and don't click those links on the web. Let the rotten flowers wilt on the vine.

Or don't. Your choice.
Posted April 22, 2014
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Sufyan: I don't think it goes in circles. I do however think that we have a tendency to elevate the most atrocious aspects of our cultural history. 30 years from now young people will think everyone was happily watching the Kardashians and TMZ, that these shows are the pinnacle of 2010's TV which is used as evidence for our collective stupidity.

It is easy to trash the 70's and 80's today when our selective history focuses on the bland mass produced garbage without acknowledging what real music and cinema lovers of that time were actually listening to or watching.

Your grandchildren are going to say YOU personally was a Belieber because that is one of the few things they are going to know about 2nd decade.
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Emob78: And that's exactly how spin doctors and research nerds get to their prestigious positions. If they create an animal pen for you to roll around in, and you're ok with it, then they can write thesis papers talking about easy you are to control. People are being lead around by the short hairs because they were fooled into believing that independence, creative thought, freedom, and auto determinism were too hard to grasp or maintain. This is how societies are controlled. It's always been that way. It's up the individual to decide if that level of hypocrisy and social stagnation is ok with them. That might just be the last true freedom we have as human beings... the right NOT to be turned into a cultural feed bag for Wall St. and Main St. If Bieber, TMZ, and Honey Boo-Boo annoy you, don't watch or listen to them. Turn off the crap on tv and don't click those links on the web. Let the rotten flowers wilt on the vine.

Or don't. Your choice.
I hope I'm not misunderstanding you, but I meant to say that our collective memories of history tends to be focused on the negatives. You can't mention Pearl Harbor without most people thinking "Those bastards knew about the attack all along!", even though the perception of the event was very different at the time. We love to remember the absolute garbage and over the top camp of 80's entertainment and chances are that if you only learn five facts about the 80's and they are all bad, anyone might come to the conclusion that the 80's itself was garbage.

Unless, as you rightly pointed out, we refuse to fall into those patterns of thought. I hope that when people in the 2030's research the entertainment of my generation they will find articles on Firefly. TV was almost saved forever!
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