Sorry. That's partly my fault. I got off on a tangent of societal values and so forth.

In this, I also agree. Marketing with smut only has a very basic visceral response and kind of leaves a bad taste in the mouths of those who don't find it appealing or provocative.

Of course, it's also not their only marketing. It just looks trashy -- like a German sex line.

There you, the classic "men are being objectifyied too, so everything is ok". Haven't you consider that objectifying men isn't good either?

Of course people love looking at attractive people and people love being looked at. People love having sex with other people they like, that's why making money out of it is disgusting, because it's not necessary. It's like selling apples to someone right behind a public apple tree. Sex should not be sold. People should learn that sex is something natural that everyone enjoys and this kind of things is teaching right the opposite, that it's ok to transform sex into a product.

I love this analogy!

.....wut.

Wow, when you said you were going to use that, I didn't think you literally meant word for word :D Word thief! :D

But as nmillar states (In my words taken from out conversation voer Steam I might add :O), it's a psychological and sociological issue. I'm not sure who it speaks more of in the case of boobhunting in a video game - you or the developer.

Let me tell you one thing - I have nearly no limit when it comes to sexual content. Hell, I one day felt very crude so I modded my Dragon Age: Origins so much a more apt title would be Porn Age: Origins. And yes, I'm going to get the Witcher 2 - why? Because the first one was good, and I barely paid attention to all the feature people are so much against. I truly find it pathetic that people are so adamant in their strife against it - it's a fucking minor feature, since when has something so small and completely optional been so much of a dealbreaker?

Sex obviously sells - why else would it be a standard sales tactic? People vote with their dollar, yes, and they vote that they want sex, otherwise it wouldn't be the most used sales tactic.

If you cannot look past minor sexual content in any sort of art, then you shouldn't consider art at all - every piece of art has a sexual theme to it and only in very rare cases does it not. Sex has been a strong theme in art for millenia and it will continue to be so for many more, no matter what some people think of it.

I'd also like to add one more thing (One thing I'm surprised no one has brought up), which is Lena Söderberg. A former playboy model who apparently leads a quite normal life. Why do I bring her up? Well, simple, she's practically the reason the internet became what it is.
Now here's a link to some quick info on her and how her Playboy centerfold held shape the internet, but there's tons of information on her out there in the history of image processing and the internet itself.

unless its made as a law people will never agree with what you are saying

Hahhaha. :D

I actually had to Bing this to find out it it was true. It really was! Thankyou for opening my eyes to both the sheer expense and expanse of Dr M's organic dildo.

I completely agree with you. :)

But that isn't what the OP was about. Most of the discussion here has nothing to do with the issues MichaelPalin raised ...

In one of the screenshots we see blood.

I oppose glorification of murder, violence to sell games.

Simple:
You won't buy the game because of the article. At least 2 people WILL buy the game because of the article. Really, you do the maths :D

They had women, too, yes, but it was mostly in the Old Camp. I found their role believable, too, I was only disappointed that it was graphically exploited for the male player and that the game didn't give you any options to rebel against it or at least disapprove, at no stage of teh game. Basically the guy you're playing just ignores their treatment or approves of it. Regardless of their role, the women could have been made into characters, too, but they were just decoration.

What do you mean?, I love Carol Cleveland's boobs (well, at least the ones from the 60s).

Just tomake this clear again, this is not a complaint against boobs or nudity or sex in media, it's a complaint against using them as a marketing tool.

You're right, and most of my post was actually towards other people than him. The whole issue with sex being used as a sales tactic is not something I see as an issue. Hell, to be honest, I'm proud of CDP for using it. Mainly because I thought The Witcher 1 was so good, and it boosted something daring at the time (Even though I found it meak and incredibly harmless). I have no doubt that The Witcher 2 will be good (if it sucks though, I will hate it, and I will base it on it's own merits - gameplay, roleplay, story, characters, etc, and not it's marketing campaign).

In the end, it's up to a person to make up his own opinion, and preferably independently of what others say. Especially independently of the marketing campaign, because the marketing campaign might just be trying to sugarcoat feces. sure, it might look and taste good, but in the end, it's still feces. If one cannot consider a marketing campaign as anything but a ploy to earn money, then one should not listen. They are mainly there to create awareness of a product, not much else. What's funny though, is that going the controversial way is nearly always the best - it often leads to the streisand effect. If people want to create a fuss over something because they don't like it, chances are that in our day and age, ignoring it is the better solution