As i said the discussion should end here where is your problem ?
Everybody can make up his mind and the discussion is finished.

Not a basketball fan I see. Watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsT9TuOfT80&feature=related and you'll see it was an attempt at humour using Marvisms (the announcer is Marv Albert).

Yeah discussion ends here. 16 poorly trained hijackers with boxcutters brought America to its knees. Cheney never ordered a stand down. The whole air defense system just seemed to fail. The Taliban didn't meet with Bush before 911. The Patriot Act wasn't created before 911. Steel structures melted from the oil causing structural collapse that looked looked like a demolition but wasn't. Building 7 fell because of a fire. An amateur pilot who did poorly in training school was able to perform what most elite pilots say only the elite of the elite can pull off (the alleged flight into the pentagon). They won't release any footage from the 80+ cameras around the Pentagon because of security reasons. The Pentagon's data on the missing trillions (2.3T) just happened to be on computers that were destroyed by the "plane". Iraq was behind 911 so we had to go there. The WTC was privatized before destruction just because. The Project for a New American Century (PNAC), that most of the Bush Administration was a part of, did not state they needed a new Pearl Harbor to enact their goals. There was no insider trading before and right after the attack. All the alleged perpetrators died despite multiple reports that many are still alive in various parts of the world. The Anthrax attacks just happened to come during 911 investigations and debate on the Patriot Act. Bush didn't try to stop the 911 commission (maybe some but when he got his own man as head of it, he accepted). Bush had no relations with the Bin Ladin family. We didn't train them in the 80's. The US has never done false flag attacks before (The Maine and Gulf of Tonkin doesn't count).

And finally, Bin Ladin had to be dumped at sea right after death because of muslim tradition..LOL

Now that my friends is one hell of a conspiracy theory.

For the last Iraq war they did not need that much. The Propaganda with the tear dropping girl was enough. Well trained of course before ^^. The story is gold and an absolute masterpiece.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmfVs3WaE9Y

You think that one's bad, I heard all of Chicago got O'leary's cow drunk so she'd knock over the lamp and set fire to the city. Just so they could get the mobsters in to finance the rebuilding.

IF you actually EVER bothered to read and understand my posts, you'd KNOW that I didn't accept anything of the sort. I got off my fat, lazy arse and went out to research it with the experts in my area. That'd be the world-class university less than 2 miles away from my front door I mentioned somewhere in the last 15 pages ;)
You'd also know that said experts, amongst hundreds of thousands of others world-wide, provide constant VERIFIABLE and REPEATABLE proofs of their expertise and research in the relevant areas subject to your highly WRONG claims in this thread...that you've OBVIOUSLY never even tested, researched, or even thought about for yourself.

Please, stop avoiding the issues raised, and provide YOUR proof, that CAN be tested and researched, if not proven to the satisfaction of the world.

IF you can do that, which I very much doubt, AND it can be verified, which I doubt even more, then we'll all shut up, admit you were right, and leave this thread to you.

Until then : ROFL! PMSL! LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!
By the way? How can you judge something serious proof, when it's so obviously against your erroneous beliefs to the point where you won;t even consider looking at it properly, and merely dismissing it as "propaganda?" ;)

Get off your arse! Get educated! Then, and only then, will the world stop laughing at you.

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Wrong! There were more than 16. And define "poorly trained", please. That should provide a few laughs for us ^_^

No opinion, never researched it...

Why would they?

Well, DUH! Obvious statement is obvious!

WRONG! The only idiots claiming that are the "Truthers". Not ONE competent engineer has made that claim. Please show us where they have!

WRONG! The only idiots claiming that are the "truthers". Not ONE competent engineer has made that claim. It fell from a combination of rubble from WTC1 tearing out a lot of lower floors, AND a series of fires that were left unfought by the NYFD.

WRONG! Cite your source!
Where are all these "expert" pilots? because they're not in the media....at all. Not even to be laughed at.

WRONG! They've released some. Just not all. And the world's largest office building does require security....or you'd get idiots driving vans full of explosives and fertiliser into it...now why does that ring a bell....?

Uhh...whut?

WRONG! Where do you GET these asinine beliefs??? O_o


WRONG! Please, give the source!

Uhhh, whut? O_o

Finally! Something you got right!
It was investigated, and there were no unusual patterns of trades made for that week leading upto the attacks! YAY..... Why do I get the feeling you're trying to distort that though...?

Well, you'd certainly expect the attackers to have died in varying degrees of impact and flames. Where's your sources and reliable, verifiable proof that these "hijackers" somehow mysteriously teleported off the planes in the last seconds before impact and are still alive?

Ivins? whatever his name was? One lone nut? LOL! Oh please!


Why would he? O_o Does not compute. Explain your reasoning here, and provide citations and sources!

Uhhhh? CIA did though ;)

USA certainly did train them, and provide arms and armaments, to help them against the Soviet invaders. Not officially, but they sent "advisers" and "observers" ;) Just as the UK did.
Just as the Soviets helped the VietCong in the 60s and 70s.

Uhhh? I think my sarcasm metre just asploded.

WRONG! Although it is sometimes accepted as necessary by their traditions, it's not a regular occurrence by far.
The US ALSO didn't want to leave a grave that was easily accessible by terrorists, and have it become a shrine to further atrocities. I kind of agree with that, and kind of disagree, too.

Well, you're not doing too well with it. D+. Could do better! More research needed, definitely lots more proof needed. Less sarcasm would help a little....maybe if you made more jokes?!

Anyone got any Tylenol? I seem to have a small headache in my left eyeball....

http://www.gog.com/en/forum/general/the_truth_about_9_11/post335

And most "truthers" and conspiracy theorists believe that the mass media is controlled by the government last time I checked.

Good watch!

lol, not nearly as mad as you must be to call me "gay". Ridiculous, much? Yes, you are -_-
Petty? That too!
Come back when you can pass a Turing Test -_-

I love how Slash says to watch the video and come to our own conclusions, and then berates anyone who has done so and come to the conclusion that the movie is a bunch of hogwash.

Word of advice Slash - calling people morons and idiots for not seeing how the whole 9-11 thing was a gummit conspiracy won't win you any friends, especially when we did what you said, watched the movie, and came to our own conclusions.

You should have just said "Watch this movie and if you don't agree with it, you are a moron."

The Patriot Act was created before 9/11 and spread throughout many bills and not called The Patriot Act. That's a mix of all kinds of crap they've been wishing they could get in for a long, long time. You can chase that thread all the way back to the 1950s.

If it wasn't called the patriot act then technically the patriot act as it is now wasn't created(in it's current form and all together) before 9/11.

Ah, but before 9/11 the Patriot Act wasn't post 9/11. It was pre post gonna have had happened 9/11. And so it's a conspiracy. And since the deciphering of Nostradamus teaches us that you can change around letters to fit a name it vaguely sounds like, if you rearrange The Patriot Act, you get The Red Menace. The Patriot Act is secretly still about weeding out Russian Communist sympathizers.