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Slash you watched the video I linked? *assuming slash speaks german because his profile says he's from austria*

It would be too hard (for me) to explain/translate the video but:
That Officer explains how air defense "works" and why the stories about NORAD not being able to act because of ongoing drills (or the machines to intercept not available at that moment) are nothing more than blatant lies and that no airforce officer can truly believe the official statements made by the US gov.

I do believe 9/11 was a false flag operation but there are many charlatans out there claiming a lot of utterly BS though the us gov is telling us BS 'bout 9/11 and Bin Laden's gang as well.

Why do I believe it was a false flag operation?

I am from Germany and I know what the government of my country did to our polish neighbors ~60 years ago. That was the largest 'known' false flag operation right after Troja...

And what did Germany do after that operation? It started a HUGE war! What did America do after 9/11 they started a war which would not have enough public support in the US if it weren't for 9/11...

A hint that the US thought about false flag operations in the past: Look at Cuba in the 70s there are papers now de-classified...

And now that I am googling a bit and remembered a polish friend of mine I stumbled over an interesting wikipedia article about the Solidarność in my hometown (in germany) and that the CIA thought their bureau interesting and tried to place some spies there...

Onwards to investigate that one further ;)
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lukipela: There are a lot of people here that admit they have no technical knowledge, then refuse to believe the people that do, in favor of other people..that say they have technical knowledge but seem to have a hard time with backing it up.
And it's led top where we are now.......funny eh? Also ya know what scares me? The fact that there are OTHERS who think as slash does, with little to no proof to back it up.....it's such people that are the favorites of the gov't they dislike so much as they are much easier to lead around...i.e. sheeple.
@ passionata

I do not need to watch this video why ?

Because the planes are entirely CGI's and not real. They have been prepared by the mass media to sell this idea of plane crashes into WTC 1,2. This is what this officer from Germany does not know. Whoever thinks that an aluminium boeing slices through steel like butter and the wings as well must be drunken. Also the explosion with the planes just make no sense.

And passionata you really believe the story they sold you in school in SHAEF Germany ? ^^
Post edited May 31, 2011 by slash11
Well Slash, if you don't accept any other point of view besides your own even though the evidence supporting that has more weight than the ones behind yours then I guess it only shows who is the so called sheeple here (hint, it's not us).

It really saddens me to see this kind of attitude in people. Seriously now, the planes are CGI and not real? For fucks sake man, get a grip on reality.

As for aluminum Boeings slicing through steel like butter, I already addressed that in a previous post, but you can keep ignoring the physical truth and just blabber on based on your world views in which hard cold math and physics don't apply.
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AndrewC: Well Slash, if you don't accept any other point of view besides your own even though the evidence supporting that has more weight than the ones behind yours then I guess it only shows who is the so called sheeple here (hint, it's not us).

It really saddens me to see this kind of attitude in people. Seriously now, the planes are CGI and not real? For fucks sake man, get a grip on reality.

As for aluminum Boeings slicing through steel like butter, I already addressed that in a previous post, but you can keep ignoring the physical truth and just blabber on based on your world views in which hard cold math and physics don't apply.
I can accept other opinions easily bu where is your proof that almunium slices through steel and even better; the nose out mistake by FOX news. I think we all agree that a cockpit does not fly through a steel structure building and does not get out intact on the other side of the building.
Post edited May 31, 2011 by slash11
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slash11: I can accept other opinions easily bu where is your proof that almunium slice through steel and even better. The nose out mistake FOX news. I think we all agree that a cockpit does not fly through a steel structure building and does not get out intact on the other side of the building.
It seems that you can't; I already told you that that plane didn't crash in a cube made entirely out of steel, so the density of the building was lower than that of the plane. Take into account the speed of the plane and the fact that it crashed into an area made mostly out of glass and you have your fucking proof.

Same thing for the cockpit. You need to accept that most of the walls inside that building were plaster and you can go through them with a fucking office chair and get on the other side without any serious damage if your speed is high enough.
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slash11: I can accept other opinions easily bu where is your proof that almunium slice through steel and even better. The nose out mistake FOX news. I think we all agree that a cockpit does not fly through a steel structure building and does not get out intact on the other side of the building.
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AndrewC: It seems that you can't; I already told you that that plane didn't crash in a cube made entirely out of steel, so the density of the building was lower than that of the plane. Take into account the speed of the plane and the fact that it crashed into an area made mostly out of glass and you have your fucking proof.

Same thing for the cockpit. You need to accept that most of the walls inside that building were plaster and you can go through them with a fucking office chair and get on the other side without any serious damage if your speed is high enough.
Here is a 3d simulation of the structure

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HOTAUy_mrQ&feature=related

Steel columns at the outer structure.....
I just took a random from youtube but i guarantee that WTC 1,2 ARE steel structures...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f01nkIs8C0E&feature=related

Film of WTC construction
Post edited May 31, 2011 by slash11
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AndrewC: It seems that you can't; I already told you that that plane didn't crash in a cube made entirely out of steel, so the density of the building was lower than that of the plane. Take into account the speed of the plane and the fact that it crashed into an area made mostly out of glass and you have your fucking proof.

Same thing for the cockpit. You need to accept that most of the walls inside that building were plaster and you can go through them with a fucking office chair and get on the other side without any serious damage if your speed is high enough.
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slash11: Here is a 3d simulation of the structure

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HOTAUy_mrQ&feature=related

Steel columns at the outer structure.....
I'm sorry but I can't find any credentials about Nathan Evans and without that I can't take anything done by him (or anyone) pertaining to material resistance and structural integrity seriously.

Also, from what I see that clip was made purposely for movies supporting the so called 9/11 hoax so it makes it even harder to swallow as an authorative source.
This thread:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyrlcoKRjn0&feature=related
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passionata: That Officer explains how air defense "works" and why the stories about NORAD not being able to act because of ongoing drills (or the machines to intercept not available at that moment) are nothing more than blatant lies and that no airforce officer can truly believe the official statements made by the US gov.
No part of this statement makes sense. Rapid, chaotic, multi-channel real-time communication in the military is chaotic as all fuck, especially with CoC tiers, multiple personnel, panic, miscommunication and real time updates, and all kinds of shit that has a tendency to go on. When you have to keep track of all kinds of shit at once, keep track of who needs to be told and who's been updated, who still needs to be called, verifying information constantly, and then going back and forth with everyone while still doing your job is hectic and time consuming as all hell. And that's just on your end, not to mention the CoC, any civilians contacting you who you have to get all the information from, giving them information in turn, handling all kinds of shit at once.

Any officer who spouts bullshit that sounds like what he's saying doesn't know what the hell he's talking about.
@slash
I am not sure where you are getting at with that SHAEF statement.

@nondeplumage
I do not know if you actually were able to understand what that man said (first part of the interview is the interesting part I talked about before).

The man has served 38 years at the airforce 12 years of that at NATO forces as general inspector so I believe him to have some insights that being said all he claims in this ten minutes of the interview is that it is impossible that the alert squad to intercept (alpha scramble) if there is losscomm or someone violating airspace wasn't available because there isn't staff for the machines or no machines because they were transferred to another station.

This in his words impossible because NATO law states that the alert squads MUST remain at their station and may only be used as a alert squad for intercepting 24/7 365 days a year...

You might have not get that this officer is only talking about NORAD not intercepting the machines since Pearl Harbor you have these alert squads which are only there to intercept if airspace is violated or a loss of communication and in fact we have adopted this concept. In Germany we have two alert squads one stationed in the north one in the south.

Andrew's Airbase 'bout 15km from Washington has some squads as well and they knew the plane was heading towards the Pentagon so why wasn't the Boeing intercepted? Because of a drill?

Dude real life is always seperated from drills and that an entity like NORAD is unable to act because of a drill that claim is just as silly as claiming men weren't on the moon yet or that Obama is white.

I am talking about squads like this:
http://translate.google.de/translate?hl=de&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&sl=de&tl=en&u=http://www.luftwaffe.de/portal/a/luftwaffe/kcxml/04_Sj9SPykssy0xPLMnMz0vM0Y_QjzKLNzKIdw9xBclB2F7O-pFw0aCUVH1vfV-P_NxU_QD9gtyIckdHRUUA2B-Kqw!!/delta/base64xml/L2dJQSEvUUt3QS80SVVFLzZfMjBfMURBQQ!!%3Fyw_contentURL%3D%252F01DB060000000001%252FW27F3APF004INFODE%252Fcontent.jsp
Post edited May 31, 2011 by passionata
9/11 was some new world order shit to pacify the middle east and bring them under control. We (The USA) are the armed wing of the new world order, so we do most of the dirty work. It's all because of our military culture too..we average a major war every 20 years.

False flag attacks aren't exactly new nor will they ever go away..they've been used all throughout history. Because they WORK.
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BlazeKING: 9/11 was some new world order shit to pacify the middle east and bring them under control. We (The USA) are the armed wing of the new world order, so we do most of the dirty work. It's all because of our military culture too..we average a major war every 20 years.

False flag attacks aren't exactly new nor will they ever go away..they've been used all throughout history. Because they WORK.
You get it in a good direction and yes they abuse the american people for their ugly scams. The military is used for conquering the world, now in the middle east.
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BlazeKING: 9/11 was some new world order shit to pacify the middle east and bring them under control. We (The USA) are the armed wing of the new world order, so we do most of the dirty work. It's all because of our military culture too..we average a major war every 20 years.

False flag attacks aren't exactly new nor will they ever go away..they've been used all throughout history. Because they WORK.
lolwhut? "Pacify" them by forcing them to take up arms against an invader (which they've ALWAYS done throughout history), and fight to the death? So this is a pacification by extermination and genocide??

Have you heard how you sound? O_o
Give your head a wobble, and get some reality.
Junge ...

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Lone3wolf: Give your head a wobble, and get some reality.
NO U!

Seriously though, have you ever listened to a US president’s speech? Never heard the phrase “bringing peace to the Middle East” in there?
Post edited May 31, 2011 by Demut