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slash11: Just check the nose in nose out of the "plane" that aired FOX on 9/11. They have even removed it now because the fraud is so obvious....
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carmen510: Two things:

1. Stop deflecting questions with irrelevant statements. Do you believe that Anderson Cooper, Bill O'Reilly, Glenn Beck, Stephen Colbert, and Kieth Olbermann are part of a mass media conspiracy to control the government?

2. Let's suppose that the plane was in fact a missile, as you claim. If so, then what about the people inside the plane during that time? I don't think you can fit hundreds of people inside a missile, unlike a jet plane.
So who controls the mass media in the US ?
President Nixon will tell you.....

And watch september clues on youtube for the whole mass media scam on 9/11
Post edited May 30, 2011 by slash11
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carmen510: Two things:

1. Stop deflecting questions with irrelevant statements. Do you believe that Anderson Cooper, Bill O'Reilly, Glenn Beck, Stephen Colbert, and Kieth Olbermann are part of a mass media conspiracy to control the government?

2. Let's suppose that the plane was in fact a missile, as you claim. If so, then what about the people inside the plane during that time? I don't think you can fit hundreds of people inside a missile, unlike a jet plane.
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slash11: So who controls the mass media in the US ?
President Nixon will tell you.....

And watch september clues on youtube for the whole mass media scam on 9/11
I reiterate my question: How did all the people fit in this supposed "missile"? Because they certainly died, and a missile certainly cannot fit all of those people in addition to a payload.
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slash11: So who controls the mass media in the US ?
President Nixon will tell you.....

And watch september clues on youtube for the whole mass media scam on 9/11
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carmen510: I reiterate my question: How did all the people fit in this supposed "missile"? Because they certainly died, and a missile certainly cannot fit all of those people in addition to a payload.
What they did with the passengers is up to everyones guess but what is certain that this plane is a CGI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5-xcvv_fRQ

analysis by simonshack
FOX even removed this now out of the archives because it is so damaging....
So... lemme get this straight....
"Operation Northwoods" was only a plan, and NEVER enacted? Not only that, but the man who dreamed it up was fired because of it?

And idiots are claiming it as "proof" of US government being behind "9/11" attacks?


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carmen510: I reiterate my question: How did all the people fit in this supposed "missile"? Because they certainly died, and a missile certainly cannot fit all of those people in addition to a payload.
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slash11: What they did with the passengers is up to everyones guess but what is certain that this plane is a CGI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5-xcvv_fRQ

analysis by simonshack
FOX even removed this now out of the archives because it is so damaging....
If the supposed "mask" covering the "CGI plane" was shifted, both sides of it would have to shift an equal distance. The amount of shift of the left side is demonstrated in the video with a dotted line. The shift distance on the right side would have been exactly the same as that on the left. Therefore, the plane should have appeared to enter the
building through a slot in the side facing the camera, BUT IT DIDN'T. Thus, the accusation that the “nose out” is the result of a “mask” that has shifted, is completely incorrect.

Also, the "nose in" and "nose out" images (the ones captured by the 'Chopper 5' video) AREN'T EVEN A MATCH, let alone a "micro precision match". A "CGI plane" should have the same shape going in as it came out since its not actually colliding with the tower, BUT IT DIDN'T. The "nose in" picture is different from the "nose out" picture, meaning that it couldn't have been a graphic insert. In addition, "September Clues" DELIBERATELY FALSIFIED the images by using anti-aliasing, which made the two different frames of the noses match up. Anti-aliasing can easily make things appear similar when used on enlarged pixels. "September Clues" is intentionally DECEIVING people by MANIPULATING THE EVIDENCE.
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slash11: What they did with the passengers is up to everyones guess but what is certain that this plane is a CGI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5-xcvv_fRQ

analysis by simonshack
FOX even removed this now out of the archives because it is so damaging....
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carmen510: If the supposed "mask" covering the "CGI plane" was shifted, both sides of it would have to shift an equal distance. The amount of shift of the left side is demonstrated in the video with a dotted line. The shift distance on the right side would have been exactly the same as that on the left. Therefore, the plane should have appeared to enter the
building through a slot in the side facing the camera, BUT IT DIDN'T. Thus, the accusation that the “nose out” is the result of a “mask” that has shifted, is completely incorrect.

Also, the "nose in" and "nose out" images (the ones captured by the 'Chopper 5' video) AREN'T EVEN A MATCH, let alone a "micro precision match". A "CGI plane" should have the same shape going in as it came out since its not actually colliding with the tower, BUT IT DIDN'T. The "nose in" picture is different from the "nose out" picture, meaning that it couldn't have been a graphic insert. In addition, "September Clues" DELIBERATELY FALSIFIED the images by using anti-aliasing, which made the two different frames of the noses match up. Anti-aliasing can easily make things appear similar when used on enlarged pixels. "September Clues" is intentionally DECEIVING people by MANIPULATING THE EVIDENCE.
Why did FOX then remove it from the archives ?
If you have proof for your claims then send them to him or ?
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carmen510: *snip*
... is intentionally DECEIVING people by MANIPULATING THE EVIDENCE.
That's the case for around 99.999999995% of "Truthers" claims, and videos. Not very good with providing real confirming evidence. Just lots of snide comments, lies, and falsified pictures/videos.

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carmen510: *snip*
... is intentionally DECEIVING people by MANIPULATING THE EVIDENCE.
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Lone3wolf: That's the case for around 99.999999995% of "Truthers" claims, and videos. Not very good with providing real confirming evidence. Just lots of snide comments, lies, and falsified pictures/videos.

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Moment i do also now ad-hominem attacks: Hi 3rd world UK idiot and this has not even much to do with "truthers" but with an analysis of the TV footage.....
And if it is no problem why did FOX remove it ?
Post edited May 30, 2011 by slash11
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slash11: And the Americans who believe everything what their government tells them are also dumbfucks. As you can see i can start also with ad-hominem attacks.
Except... I'm not relying on government analysis of it but private entities that span the political spectrum.

Anyhoooo since it's 'ad hominem attack' time, Slash11 is from Austria... who gave the world Hitler.

/Godwin'ed

/thread over
Post edited May 30, 2011 by Metro09
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slash11: And the Americans who believe everything what their government tells them are also dumbfucks. As you can see i can start also with ad-hominem attacks.
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Metro09: Except... I'm not relying on government analysis of it but private entities that span the political spectrum.
Well go to shadowstats.com for a serious analysis of the state of the US-economy and not the fake numbers from the US government.
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carmen510: If the supposed "mask" covering the "CGI plane" was shifted, both sides of it would have to shift an equal distance. The amount of shift of the left side is demonstrated in the video with a dotted line. The shift distance on the right side would have been exactly the same as that on the left. Therefore, the plane should have appeared to enter the
building through a slot in the side facing the camera, BUT IT DIDN'T. Thus, the accusation that the “nose out” is the result of a “mask” that has shifted, is completely incorrect.

Also, the "nose in" and "nose out" images (the ones captured by the 'Chopper 5' video) AREN'T EVEN A MATCH, let alone a "micro precision match". A "CGI plane" should have the same shape going in as it came out since its not actually colliding with the tower, BUT IT DIDN'T. The "nose in" picture is different from the "nose out" picture, meaning that it couldn't have been a graphic insert. In addition, "September Clues" DELIBERATELY FALSIFIED the images by using anti-aliasing, which made the two different frames of the noses match up. Anti-aliasing can easily make things appear similar when used on enlarged pixels. "September Clues" is intentionally DECEIVING people by MANIPULATING THE EVIDENCE.
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slash11: Why did FOX then remove it from the archives ?
If you have proof for your claims then send them to him or ?
How do you know that FOX removed it from their archives in the first place?
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Metro09: Except... I'm not relying on government analysis of it but private entities that span the political spectrum.
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slash11: Well go to shadowstats.com for a serious analysis of the state of the US-economy and not the fake numbers from the US government.
What does that have to do with 9/11 and why do I even care about the US economy? Why do you care about the US economy? I make a comfortable living and unless the 'revolution' comes early and the starving barbarians break into my house and start looting my goods I couldn't care less if Bob the auto worker gets laid off. Cynical? Sure, but I can't save the world.

I love people who care about stuff just for the sake of caring and/or to be edgy.
Post edited May 30, 2011 by Metro09
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slash11: Why did FOX then remove it from the archives ?
If you have proof for your claims then send them to him or ?
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carmen510: How do you know that FOX removed it from their archives in the first place?
They have replaced it now with a mix from other news stations for this watch FOXED OUT from simonshack
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Metro09: Except... I'm not relying on government analysis of it but private entities that span the political spectrum.
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slash11: Well go to shadowstats.com for a serious analysis of the state of the US-economy and not the fake numbers from the US government.
Its good to know that you trust analysis and figures from shadowstats.com THAT AREN'T CITED WHATSOEVER. If you're going to claim that the US government is deliberately manipulating economic figures, you're going to need the data to back that up. If you don't, then nobody who has ever studied economics, history, or the social sciences should ever believe what you have to say. Unsubstantiated rumors and information are not becoming of people who claim that the US government lies.
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slash11: Well go to shadowstats.com for a serious analysis of the state of the US-economy and not the fake numbers from the US government.
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carmen510: Its good to know that you trust analysis and figures from shadowstats.com THAT AREN'T CITED WHATSOEVER. If you're going to claim that the US government is deliberately manipulating economic figures, you're going to need the data to back that up. If you don't, then nobody who has ever studied economics, history, or the social sciences should ever believe what you have to say. Unsubstantiated rumors and information are not becoming of people who claim that the US government lies.
Well i have studied economics and im for example well aware of the methods how to manipulate inflation data.