It seems that you're using an outdated browser. Some things may not work as they should (or don't work at all).
We suggest you upgrade newer and better browser like: Chrome, Firefox, Internet Explorer or Opera

×
Community
General discussion (archive)The truth about 9/11(463 posts)(463 posts)
(463 posts)
Pages:
1
5
10
15
19
20
21
22
23
25
31
This is my favourite topic
Posted May 29, 2011
In the internet age it would be impossible to conceal a conspiracy of that magnitude. Moreover, what theories like that ignore is that as many powerful people as it would take to perpetuate there are an equal amount of powerful people who would gain from exposing those who perpetrated the conspiracy. There is no shortage of people with wealth and power who absolutely loathe George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, etc. who would love nothing more than to have them branded as traitors and murderers.

As to why people subscribe to such ludicrous theories, most likely because it gives them some sense of self-importance that they think they are smarter than the rest of us 'sheeple' who can't see the 'obvious truth.'
Post edited May 29, 2011 by Metro09
Posted May 29, 2011
avatar
Metro09: In the internet age it would be impossible to conceal a conspiracy of that magnitude. Moreover, what theories like that ignore is that as many powerful people as it would take to perpetuate there are an equal amount of powerful people who would gain from exposing those who perpetrated the conspiracy. There is no shortage of people with wealth and power who absolutely loathe George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, etc. who would love nothing more than to have them branded as traitors and murderers.
But that is obviously just an act they put on to fool the ignorant, unwashed masses.
Posted May 29, 2011
I am pissed by the US government. They said there should not be another 9/11. And yet it was still there every year since 2002.
Posted May 29, 2011
Anyone who dismissed this conspiracy theory without actually going through all the claims himself is a huge moron. Just saying “Meh, look at bullshit conspiracy theories like the faked moonlanding, clearly this one has to be nonsense as well” can hardly count as disproving them. I doubt that those people even know about actual conspiracies that have been proven nowadays. Among those there are also ones where the US government planned or carried out attacks on its own people to create a casus belli. So again, anyone who dismisses this theory without first examining it is a fucking retard and not a single bit better than tinfoil hats who claim to have been abducted by aliens.
Post edited May 29, 2011 by Demut
Posted May 29, 2011
What the hell has 9th of November got to do with anything? :o
Posted May 29, 2011
avatar
Lone3wolf: What the hell has 9th of November got to do with anything? :o
What a great and valuable contribution to this thread. Thanks, Lon3wolf.
Posted May 29, 2011
avatar
Lone3wolf: What the hell has 9th of November got to do with anything? :o
avatar
Demut: What a great and valuable contribution to this thread. Thanks, Lon3wolf.
Go read the rest of them. Much better than your e-pistle above ;)
Posted May 29, 2011
Not really. A voice of reason in a sea of dumbfuckery and smugness is more like it.
Posted May 29, 2011
I resemble that remark!

And I can be as smug as the next guy, too!

:P

But seriously, Slash's repeated claims that those fires in WTCs cannot melt steel is pure ignorance - and that's being VERY polite to him. Or her. (probably a him, most girls can admit to being wrong. They just slit your throat afterwards :D) [or something infinitely more valuable to boys >.<]

The jet fuel, and the office furniture fires too, can reach well above 1,000degrees C, and that's more than enough to reduce the load-bearing strength of steel to the point it's more or less useless to hold up any great weight. 650C=50% strength. 1,000C = ~10% strength. No way will it bear the weight on it of the WTC floors. Proven time and again by engineers of construction, materials testing, and other related disciplines.

Makes one wonder why he not only won't admit it, but he won't even bother to research that on his own. He'd rather believe 30year-old momma's boys who've never been laid in their lives, in some schlock unresearched video on YouTube.....
Posted May 29, 2011
You do not. At least from what I have read.

avatar
Lone3wolf: But seriously, Slash's repeated claims that those fires in WTCs cannot melt steel is pure ignorance - and that's being VERY polite to him.
That might be true. But I was referring to the people here who brush this of as hogwash without understanding the arguments (which can of course be false). This is not better than the ignorance shown by people like Slash (according to you, I haven’t read his stuff).
Posted May 29, 2011
avatar
Lone3wolf: He'd rather believe 30year-old momma's boys who've never been laid in their lives (...)
Wow, I've just learned that sex grants credibility 0_o. I'll alert the dept. of Epistemology at once !
Posted May 29, 2011
avatar
Demut: Anyone who dismissed this conspiracy theory without actually going through all the claims himself is a huge moron. Just saying “Meh, look at bullshit conspiracy theories like the faked moonlanding, clearly this one has to be nonsense as well” can hardly count as disproving them. I doubt that those people even know about actual conspiracies that have been proven nowadays. Among those there are also ones where the US government planned or carried out attacks on its own people to create a casus belli. So again, anyone who dismisses this theory without first examining it is a fucking retard and not a single bit better than tinfoil hats who claim to have been abducted by aliens.
Would be nice to get, y'know, an example of one of those incidents.

And don't say the USS Maine incident, because nothing can be conclusively proven about that.
Posted May 29, 2011
avatar
GameRager: Doesn't matter....it's still just a theory. Do I need to post the defnition of theory in here?
But...but...like, it's not a theory! It's an hypothesis!

Theories are VERY LIKELY correct or at least partially correct and undergo thousands of tests!

I used to believe this nonsense when I was a teenager. I was very strong in those beliefs. Now it's more interesting to look up the psychology behind conspiracy theorists and understand why they flock to conspiracies and toss logic out the window ahead of anyone else, spouting crap like "It's obviously a controlled demolition you don't need to be an expert to see that derp de durda!" when, yeah, ya kinda do have to be an expert to show genuine expertise and not just wax it.

Just read the Popular Mechanics debunking. End of story.

(I used to shrug it off, tho, going Yeah, they're obviously funded by the Jewish-elite Rothschild conspiracy to run the world behind closed doors Illuminati!! They don't got no knowledge over these 20-year-old biased filmmakers with no personal experience!)
Post edited May 29, 2011 by RSHabroptilus
Posted May 29, 2011
avatar
Lone3wolf: He'd rather believe 30year-old momma's boys who've never been laid in their lives (...)
avatar
Vestin: Wow, I've just learned that sex grants credibility 0_o. I'll alert the dept. of Epistemology at once !
Yeah those statements always crack me up. It reminds me Pirates of Silicon Valley doucdrama on Gates and Jobs where they show Steve Jobs questioning candidates on their sex life in determining if they should get the job or not. Because we all know you're superior when you knock up a chick but to refuse acknowledgment of your child.
Post edited May 29, 2011 by Kabuto
Posted May 30, 2011
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-narcissus-in-all-us/200809/paranoia-911-and-the-roots-conspiracy-theories

Found that a few months ago. P. interesting. STILL meaning to check out that book. /lazy

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military/news/1227842
/end of slash's arguments, in a condensed, easy-to-read series of pages.
Pages:
1
5
10
15
19
20
21
22
23
25
31
This is my favourite topic
Community
General discussion (archive)The truth about 9/11(463 posts)(463 posts)
(463 posts)