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carmen510: For anyone who says that controlled demolitions caused the towers to fall, here's a video of the beams bending due to the extreme heat caused by burning plane fuel:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8dX3foxozQ
jet fuel or fire cannot melt steel. And also the fire is only on small part of the building. Also notice never in the last 100 years a steel structure building fell because of fire.

The problem always remains that you need to cut off the steel columns to get such collapses for a steel structure building. Also notice the concrete has been pulverized.
Post edited May 29, 2011 by slash11
The crew of the USS Forester might disagree with that.
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carmen510: For anyone who says that controlled demolitions caused the towers to fall, here's a video of the beams bending due to the extreme heat caused by burning plane fuel:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8dX3foxozQ
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slash11: jet fuel or fire cannot melt steel. And also the fire is only on small part of the building. Also notice never in the last 100 years a steel structure building fell because of fire.

The problem always remains that you need to cut off the steel columns to get such collapses for a steel structure building. Also notice the concrete has been pulverized.
1. You're right in that jet fuel set on fire cannot melt steel. HOWEVER, at high temperatures (like those when jet fuel burns), steel deforms and loses much of its strength, which would result in the collapse. The question isn't of temperature, its of thermal conductivity. If the heat from the fire is being pumped into the steel faster than it can be conducted away, THEN THE STEEL'S TEMPERATURE RISES ABOVE THE FIRE'S TEMPERATURE, RESULTING IN DEFORMATION. At that point, the rest is simply momentum and physics.

2. You're right that a steel structure has never COMPLETELY collapsed from a fire, but that's because none of those fires were burning from such extreme temperatures. There are several of cases where steel structures partially collapsed, such as:

Parque Central Complex in Caracas, Venezuela. In 2004, a fire caused the collapse of two floors, but the temperature had dropped sufficiently to avoid a complete structural collapse.

The Windsor Building in Madrid. In 2005, a fire caused most of the top floors to collapse into the lower floors.

In 2007, A GASOLINE TANKER FIRE caused an elevated roadway (the I-580 and I-980) in Oakland, California to collapse, because UNLEADED GASOLINE BURNED AT A HIGH ENOUGH TEMPERATURE to deform and bend the steel frame of the overpass.
Plasticity, it's serious business.
Also important to notice is that the mass media is fully complicit in this massive 9/11 hoax.

september clues is also good to see the mass media hoax of the planes..

here the nose in nose out of the plane.....

.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5-xcvv_fRQ
Post edited May 29, 2011 by slash11
I hear the moon is made of green cheese? True/false?
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Metro09: I hear the moon is made of green cheese? True/false?
What has that to do with it, the mass media in the US are a pack of liars....
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Metro09: I hear the moon is made of green cheese? True/false?
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slash11: What has that to do with it, the mass media in the US are a pack of liars....
Exactly, they want you to believe the moon is NOT made of green cheese. What are they hiding?!?!
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Metro09: Exactly, they want you to believe the moon is NOT made of green cheese. What are they hiding?!?!
The crackers, apparently.
uhm a new terrorist act eat the moon if it made of cheese
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Metro09: Exactly, they want you to believe the moon is NOT made of green cheese. What are they hiding?!?!
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nondeplumage: The crackers, apparently.
Ritz or generic?
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Metro09: I hear the moon is made of green cheese? True/false?
<i>Everybody knows the moon's made of cheese.</i>
Post edited May 29, 2011 by cjrgreen
I've just read through this entire thread as I wait for a show to come on, and I've got to ask what exactly people who suggest so-called government conspiracies hope to get out of it? Seriously Slash11, if you believe what you say to be true then the only logical conclusion is that you will be disappeared in an extremely efficient and silent manner. Meanwhile, the rest of us will remain happily in the dark and alive. So what do you hope to achieve with your revelations? Points? Prizes? The warm, happy sensation of feeling pointlessly justified?
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Lobsang1979: Seriously Slash11, if you believe what you say to be true then the only logical conclusion is that you will be disappeared in an extremely efficient and silent manner. Meanwhile, the rest of us will remain happily in the dark and alive. So what do you hope to achieve with your revelations? Points? Prizes? The warm, happy sensation of feeling pointlessly justified?
+1

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Lobsang1979: Seriously Slash11, if you believe what you say to be true then the only logical conclusion is that you will be disappeared in an extremely efficient and silent manner. Meanwhile, the rest of us will remain happily in the dark and alive. So what do you hope to achieve with your revelations? Points? Prizes? The warm, happy sensation of feeling pointlessly justified?
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Popinjay: +1

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Well look,
If they get away with every scam what people are we ?