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Posted May 27, 2011
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bladeofBG: And survivors said they smelled cordite
Oh, well they smelled cordite. I mean, there's no mistaking that. We all know what it smells like.
Posted May 27, 2011
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GameRager: Actually it wasn't a missile. Get your facts straight.
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bladeofBG: If that's the case, then why did the FBI confiscate the video evidence from the hotels & gas station near the Pentagon that captured the hit? And why were only a debatable (whether it was a plane as they say, or a missile) 5 frames given to the public thereafter?

And survivors said they smelled cordite, which is found in missiles & other fatal projectiles, not in jet fuel.
Everything you have said is just government protocol. It would not make sense for them to do otherwise. The rest is speculation, people said they smelled cordite but there is no evidence. And you blame Bush? If any one president is guilty, they're all guilty. If you believe this then please tell me you also believe that Obama lied about Osama. The government redirected those planes, landed, and then killed them all?

slash blames the Jews, who is the big baddy for you?
Posted May 27, 2011
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bladeofBG: IMO, the best video challenging the official story is Loose Change 2nd Edition, found here if & when you have 90+ minutes to watch and think about it. I say this is the best video b/c instead of juss taking their word for it, you can do your own research for juss about every point they make in it, and see it for yourself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Yx9NRX37SM
Sorry, old bean, but "Loose Change" has been thoroughly debunked and proven to be a pack of lies, propaganda and outright misleading and misunderstanding of the principles involved. 1st edition; 2nd edition, whatever edition.
Posted May 27, 2011
Also, there's the fact that Cordite is not used in missiles. People would have to be firing World War I rifles.

9/11 was perpetrated by time travelers... from the past!
Post edited May 27, 2011 by Taleroth
Posted May 27, 2011
Poor dumbasses, thinking conspiracies make the world a more understandable, easily understood place. Poor, poor dumbasses.
Posted May 27, 2011
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Taleroth: Also, there's the fact that Cordite is not used in missiles. People would have to be firing World War I rifles.

9/11 was perpetrated by time travelers... from the past!
No wai!!!!!
Posted May 27, 2011
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slash11: But again what has Hitler to do with 9/11 ?
I guess you haven't seen the news lately?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KP91c4V-i0
Posted May 27, 2011
Although I guess one could throw out a major fuck you for trivializing the deaths of so many people all to make you feel a little better about the world around you.
Posted May 27, 2011
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bladeofBG: If that's the case, then why did the FBI confiscate the video evidence from the hotels & gas station near the Pentagon that captured the hit? And why were only a debatable (whether it was a plane as they say, or a missile) 5 frames given to the public thereafter?

And survivors said they smelled cordite, which is found in missiles & other fatal projectiles, not in jet fuel.
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GameRager: I still would like some evidence beyond heresay and some suspicious gov't actions.
So would most people. Unfortunately, they shipped off the rubble before people could do thorough investigations as per proper protocol. Shipping it off before investigating it is illegal.

@ Taleroth
http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20091006083444AANomte

@ Tulivu

The pictures from the video they confiscated were released years after 9/11/01 (IIRC in '04), and they don't prove at all that a plane hit the Pentagon.

How are all presidents guilty if one is guilty?
I don't like Obama at all (though I respect VP Biden), but I don't believe he's lied about Osama's death. And I'm happy Osama is dead.

The Jews are victims of 9/11/01 juss like Americans and the rest of the world (NYC is the financial capital of the world).

Who is the big baddy for me? None other than the Bush Admin, FBI, CIA, and NSA.
And what's with the arrogant tone? Or do I misread your tone?

@ Lone3wolf

I don't feel at all that those who contend w/9-11Loose Change 2nd Edition have nearly enough substance as the substance I find in the video. But of course, it all comes down to who you'd rather believe. Even if the evidence was simply circumstantial,

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nondeplumage: Although I guess one could throw out a major fuck you for trivializing the deaths of so many people all to make you feel a little better about the world around you.
Who do you direct this to?
Post edited May 27, 2011 by bladeofBG
Posted May 27, 2011
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bladeofBG: And survivors said they smelled cordite
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Taleroth: Oh, well they smelled cordite. I mean, there's no mistaking that. We all know what it smells like.
Any account that says anybody "smelled cordite" is automatically suspect, either of factual inaccuracy or such awful writing style that you were willing to use that garbage cliche. Probably both.

Unless you're a veteran of WWII (where the British last used the stuff), you don't know what cordite smells like.
Posted May 27, 2011
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bladeofBG: @ Taleroth
http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20091006083444AANomte
Do you have even the vaguest clue as to how many smells can be described as acrid?
Posted May 27, 2011
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bladeofBG: @ Lone3wolf

I don't feel at all that those who contend w/9-11Loose Change 2nd Edition have nearly enough substance as the substance I find in the video. But of course, it all comes down to who you'd rather believe. Even if the evidence was simply circumstantial,
That's the point : There was NO evidence in "Loose Change : [1st/2nd/3rd/4th/Final/Final Uncut] Edition. What they claimed without proof, citation, or expert testimony was thoroughly and unequivocally refuted time, and again, in many peer-reviewed papers, expert's blogs, and other verifiable sources.

Check "Screw Loose Change" for some of these sources.
Posted May 27, 2011
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Taleroth: Oh, well they smelled cordite. I mean, there's no mistaking that. We all know what it smells like.
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cjrgreen: Any account that says anybody "smelled cordite" is automatically suspect, either of factual inaccuracy or such awful writing style that you were willing to use that garbage cliche. Probably both.

Unless you're a veteran of WWII (where the British last used the stuff), you don't know what cordite smells like.
It was people who worked at the Pentagon, which is as we all know, the head of the US military, thus I thought to take them at their word, seeing multiple people said they smelled it, or smelled something like it; it's in the video link I provided. Either way, the smell isn't consistent w/that of jet fuel.

@ taleroth
I was simply showing to use the internet for when you want to research something like that.

It's people's complete choice whether it's important enough to do their own research about it, or if they trust the government enough and settle for their version of events. W/Dubya's brother Marvin having a high position at Securacom, which ran security at Dulles airport until 9/11/01, and Osama having helped the Bush's establish their oil business and being a CIA agent (to go w/Pappa Bush once running the CIA), and the deaths of Hunter S. Thompson and Bryan C. Jack, I choose to raise red flags regarding the official story.

@ Lone3wolf

I have checked it out, and I find it to be lacking. There's also plenty of things not addressed in Loose Change that point to the Bush Admin.

Once again, it all comes down to who you'd rather believe. I'm not at all satisfied w/the official story, and believe that the Bush Admin had alot to gain from 9/11/01. Hunter S. Thompson died sometime after saying the same thing.
Post edited May 27, 2011 by bladeofBG
Posted May 27, 2011
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cjrgreen: Any account that says anybody "smelled cordite" is automatically suspect, either of factual inaccuracy or such awful writing style that you were willing to use that garbage cliche. Probably both.

Unless you're a veteran of WWII (where the British last used the stuff), you don't know what cordite smells like.
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bladeofBG: It was people who worked at the Pentagon, which is as we all know, the head of the US military, thus I thought to take them at their word, seeing multiple people said they smelled it, or smelled something like it; it's in the video link I provided. Either way, the smell isn't consistent w/that of jet fuel.
Unlikely that even active duty military would know what cordite smelled like: the stuff is that obsolete. Besides, it's a cliche that is so often abused that it sets off bullshit detectors. People use it just because they heard it in a movie and use it to mean they smelled something acrid. Well, a fire inside a building will throw up thousands of different acrid smells. It's no proof of anything.
Post edited May 27, 2011 by cjrgreen
Posted May 27, 2011
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bladeofBG: It was people who worked at the Pentagon, which is as we all know, the head of the US military, thus I thought to take them at their word, seeing multiple people said they smelled it, or smelled something like it; it's in the video link I provided. Either way, the smell isn't consistent w/that of jet fuel.
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cjrgreen: Unlikely that even active duty military would know what cordite smelled like: the stuff is that obsolete. Besides, it's a cliche that is so often abused that it sets off bullshit detectors. People use it just because they heard it in a movie and use it to mean they smelled something acrid. Well, a fire inside a building will throw up thousands of different acrid smells. It's no proof of anything.
Your point is now well taken by me.

However, the hit on the Pentagon still has many issues. One is that the lawn didn't have burns, another is that they were picking up debris from the lawn on the same day (that's illegal) and it was caught on camera, and that the hit didn't show any wing damage from the plane, and in pictures of the damage of the same day the rooms around where the projectile hit, there was an office w/a computer that was untouched. That coupled w/the fact that the FBI released debatable pictures 3yrs later, point to the hit being that of a missile instead of a jumbo jet and a cover-up thereafter.
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