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Posted January 16, 2012
Do you support or not support this?

For me, i support, its clear to me that our governments are incapable of handling their responsibilities and recent actions (even here in Australia, Where our Prime minister raised her pay to almost match the president's) have shown that they clearly aren't thinking about the public. also - where is this pay rise coming from for all our politicians? That's right, our deficit national treasury.

The carbon tax isn't just a way to "Help with environmental pollution" It's something the government profits from. They charge businesses more, businesses charge more, everyone wins, except for the common person. who gets slammed with higher prices.
Posted January 16, 2012
I don't agree with some of the actions of the government or business, but I don't support it because I think consumer greed is equally at fault.
Posted January 16, 2012
I predict this thread will end rationally with calm, focused debate and respect on all sides.
Posted January 16, 2012
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orcishgamer: I predict this thread will end rationally with calm, focused debate and respect on all sides.
Radar predicts incoming posts with personal attacks, semantics, tangents, and no substance. All valid points please report to the bunker until the battle is over.
Posted January 16, 2012
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orcishgamer: I predict this thread will end rationally with calm, focused debate and respect on all sides.
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da187jimmbones: Radar predicts incoming posts with personal attacks, semantics, tangents, and no substance. All valid points please report to the bunker until the battle is over.
Sir, yes sir.
Posted January 16, 2012
I might support the occupy movement if I knew what they actually want. At the moment, they just seem to be a bunch of people protesting everything, but with no constructive suggestions on what would make things better.
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Nroug7: The carbon tax isn't just a way to "Help with environmental pollution" It's something the government profits from. They charge businesses more, businesses charge more, everyone wins, except for the common person. who gets slammed with higher prices.
I'm pretty annoyed about the carbon tax too, especially since Gillard specifically said before her election that there would be no carbon tax under her government.

But if it wasn't the carbon tax, it probably would have been a new tax under another name. I think I object more to them trying to hide their greed behind the environmental movement, then the tax itself.
Posted January 16, 2012
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orcishgamer: I predict this thread will end rationally with calm, focused debate and respect on all sides.
Jerk.
/obligatory
Post edited January 16, 2012 by hedwards
Posted January 16, 2012
I do support it. Unfortunately I cannot elaborate further. The government's gestapo would be at my place in a minute if I do. In fact I'm probably going to get 3 months just for writing this post :S

Protesting in Singapore? Hah.
Posted January 16, 2012
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maycett: I might support the occupy movement if I knew what they actually want. At the moment, they just seem to be a bunch of people protesting everything, but with no constructive suggestions on what would make things better.
Same here, I have completely no idea what they are asking for, and what changes they want to bring. Though I tend to stand by people on the weak side, I can't say I support them before actually knowing the answer for the questions above.
Posted January 17, 2012
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lowyhong: I do support it. Unfortunately I cannot elaborate further. The government's gestapo would be at my place in a minute if I do. In fact I'm probably going to get 3 months just for writing this post :S

Protesting in Singapore? Hah.
Tell me about it, with any luck I'll be in China in just over 2 weeks, I'm not going to be doing anything political during the time I'm over there. Plus, I'm not even sure I really understand the issues.
Posted January 17, 2012
More checks and balances on the government? Sure, why not.
Bashing the rich and the successful? Die in a fire.
Posted January 17, 2012
When occupy movement started I was curious about it so I checked on Twitter hash tags related to it. Than I found out that most of twitts are added "via iPhone", "via iPad", "via Blackberry"... So it's hard for me to support such movement because those people clearly have more money than me and probably more than average person on earth.
Posted January 17, 2012
Hi, Aver.

The average Occupy supporter probably has more money than the average person on earth.

This does not detract from their plight. Jobless is jobless. Not being able to afford food, housing, education, and health care are bad, regardless of where the person is. Having an iPhone or Blackberry, usually purchased back when they still had jobs, don't prove anything except that they bought one when they had jobs, a sensible decision then. Selling them afterward won't do much. Food and housing cost in America is so high that it will get them about two weeks worth of money and then it's gone. It makes much more sense to keep them so that they will have a phone that they can use to contact and be contacted by potential employers.
Posted January 17, 2012
Sorry, when i said "Support" I meant a certain aspect: That our current governments need to be replaced. otherwise, i have no idea what occupy is upto.
Posted January 17, 2012
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tonyc_76: Hi, Aver.

The average Occupy supporter probably has more money than the average person on earth.

This does not detract from their plight. Jobless is jobless. Not being able to afford food, housing, education, and health care are bad, regardless of where the person is. Having an iPhone or Blackberry, usually purchased back when they still had jobs, don't prove anything except that they bought one when they had jobs, a sensible decision then. Selling them afterward won't do much. Food and housing cost in America is so high that it will get them about two weeks worth of money and then it's gone. It makes much more sense to keep them so that they will have a phone that they can use to contact and be contacted by potential employers.
Oh come on. You have lower unemployment rate than most of Europe. I know that being jobless is terrible thing but when I was one I was looking for a job and I was trying to learn stuff, instead of protesting.

First I found work as damn cashier in supermarket. I accepted it even tho my ambitions was way higher. Now, I found nice job in bank and I'm pretty damn sure I would not have it if I would spent time on street instead of trying to change something myself. And I live in country that has a way higher unemployment rate than US.
Post edited January 17, 2012 by Aver
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