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The point and click genre just doesn't interest me and Broken Sword on here was a prime example. Place an item in a certain area, pull a lever, light a candle and pick up a rusty key in order to open a locked gate..... it's not the logic, it's the tedium that bothers me. Ok, I admit my powers of gaming logic may also be lacking.

Is there a point and click game that so unique and doesn't have similar sections?

Anyway, each to their own...I just don't get how they sell so well. I hope I haven't dragged your thread down - I'm just having an old man moment.

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Post edited April 23, 2014 by pigdog
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pigdog: The point and click genre just doesn't interest me and Broken Sword on here was a prime example. Place an item in a certain area, pull a lever, light a candle and pick up a rusty key in order to open a locked gate..... it's not the logic, it's the tedium that bothers me. Ok, I admit my powers of gaming logic may also be lacking.

Is there a point and click game that so unique and doesn't have similar sections?

Anyway, each to their own...I just don't get how they sell so well. I hope I haven't dragged your thread down - I'm just having an old man moment.

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Well, it used to be a huge market. Now I think that it's become more of a niche (albeit a large niche) market compared to shooter and combat genres which dominate the market these days. For me, the point and click adventures (i.e. Broken Sword, et al) are all about the story and characters. Sometimes I do get stuck on the logical end of it, a certain puzzle or trying to locate that one certain hidden item). I try to figure it out, but if it starts to annoy me, I'll take a peek at a strategy guide (also known as a walkthrough) in order to move the story ahead. To me, the really good ones are like reading a novel or watching an extended movie. In general, I care less about the gameplay itself (unless its annoyingly *bad* a la NCIS: The Game) and look to Broken Sword, Gabriel Knight, et al to advance the story of these characters. I'm a sucker for the whole "Will they?/Won't they?" scenario. LOL.
Post edited April 23, 2014 by hscott2hughes
All that said, I really like adventure games which give you a taste of other genres (shooter, combat, etc) within them. Dreamfall, DS9 The Fallen, Star Trek 25th Anniversary, and ALIAS: The Game are examples of this. Dreamfall and 25th are examples of adventure games with some combat thrown in, while The Fallen and ALIAS are examples of shooter/stealth games with some point and click adventure thrown in to boot. A bit of variety is good.

A great example of an adventure/action hybrid is Broken Sword 3 (which *I* think is best of the series). The Indiana Jones games are another great example of an adventure/action hybrid. To me, those are the best kind.
Post edited April 23, 2014 by hscott2hughes
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pigdog: The point and click genre just doesn't interest me and Broken Sword on here was a prime example. Place an item in a certain area, pull a lever, light a candle and pick up a rusty key in order to open a locked gate..... it's not the logic, it's the tedium that bothers me. Ok, I admit my powers of gaming logic may also be lacking.

Is there a point and click game that so unique and doesn't have similar sections?

Anyway, each to their own...I just don't get how they sell so well. I hope I haven't dragged your thread down - I'm just having an old man moment.

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hscott2hughes: Well, it used to be a huge market. Now I think that it's become more of a niche (albeit a large niche) market compared to shooter and combat genres which dominate the market these days. For me, the point and click adventures (i.e. Broken Sword, et al) are all about the story and characters. Sometimes I do get stuck on the logical end of it, a certain puzzle or trying to locate that one certain hidden item). I try to figure it out, but if it starts to annoy me, I'll take a peek at a strategy guide (also known as a walkthrough) in order to move the story ahead. To me, the really good ones are like reading a novel or watching an extended movie. In general, I care less about the gameplay itself (unless its annoyingly *bad* a la NCIS: The Game) and look to Broken Sword, Gabriel Knight, et al to advance the story of these characters. I'm a sucker for the whole "Will they?/Won't they?" scenario. LOL.
You know what? That's almost....almost tempted my to try one again but I'm a real sucker for getting drawn in by others that I'm going to resist. I like the idea of an interactive movie with decisions rather than puzzles making the story progress.

I did a Google search for the NCIS game and have to agree...it looks terrible :)
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hscott2hughes: Well, it used to be a huge market. Now I think that it's become more of a niche (albeit a large niche) market compared to shooter and combat genres which dominate the market these days. For me, the point and click adventures (i.e. Broken Sword, et al) are all about the story and characters. Sometimes I do get stuck on the logical end of it, a certain puzzle or trying to locate that one certain hidden item). I try to figure it out, but if it starts to annoy me, I'll take a peek at a strategy guide (also known as a walkthrough) in order to move the story ahead. To me, the really good ones are like reading a novel or watching an extended movie. In general, I care less about the gameplay itself (unless its annoyingly *bad* a la NCIS: The Game) and look to Broken Sword, Gabriel Knight, et al to advance the story of these characters. I'm a sucker for the whole "Will they?/Won't they?" scenario. LOL.
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pigdog: You know what? That's almost....almost tempted my to try one again but I'm a real sucker for getting drawn in by others that I'm going to resist. I like the idea of an interactive movie with decisions rather than puzzles making the story progress.

I did a Google search for the NCIS game and have to agree...it looks terrible :)
Yeah, try one of the really good ones with a good story and intriguing character(s). If you get stuck, google yourself a walkthrough and you'll have the answer and can move on. In the old days, it was an expensive endeavor if you needed a hint. Strategy guides in printed book form were big sellers. Now, all you have to do is google the walkthrough and that's it. You've got the answer. Try to figure it out if you can, but don't let it frustrate you to the point of giving up. Take a little peek (no one will know)! Just get to the story. :)
To me, if you want deep story and characters, the Gabriel Knight trilogy is the best of the best.
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hscott2hughes: ALIAS (based on the TV series, starring Jennifer Garner, et al. - Did you know it existed? It's actually good!)
Whoa, I was vaguely aware that it existed but I didn't realise it came to PC! I thought it was a console only deal like the Buffy games (I have the first Buffy on Xbox and its actually not bad, camera's not great though)
Impressive game selections, especially X-files and Syberia :) Your post reminds me of a game I always wanted to get my hands on http://www.mobygames.com/game/windows/men-in-black-the-game/screenshots
I only played the demo, and thought that it was very cool and moody.

If you like these types of games, then I have even less of an excuse than usual to recommend : http://www.mobygames.com/game/windows/blade-runner
(There was a discussion on http://www.gog.com/forum/general/for_the_blade_runner_fans/page3 about how to get the game running with a fanmade installer if you're interested)
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RottenRotz: Huh...never realised ''star trek 25th anniversary'' had a sequel
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hscott2hughes: Yup, and as I recall, longer and much better than the first one. Awesome game.

Here's an [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek:_Judgment_Rites]article[/url].

There was also a novelization included in the strategy guide.

I still own both games (and the novel). :D
Thanks!checking it out
I don't see Deus Ex on that list. Therefore, I don't like you.
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hscott2hughes: ALIAS (based on the TV series, starring Jennifer Garner, et al. - Did you know it existed? It's actually good!)
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Fever_Discordia: Whoa, I was vaguely aware that it existed but I didn't realise it came to PC! I thought it was a console only deal like the Buffy games (I have the first Buffy on Xbox and its actually not bad, camera's not great though)
Yes, PC. The only console I have owned was an Atari 2600 back in the early 80's. All the games I've played since then have been on PC...including ALIAS. I have my hand on the factory box right now. Oooo yes. ;)

I remember seeing it on the shelf YEARS ago back when the show was on - and it was a show I liked to watch, but for whatever reason, I never picked up the game. Then, about a year ago, I was in one of my random gaming moods and came across a factory sealed box of Alias online (Amazon marketplace as I recall) by complete chance. The price was right (meaning CHEAP) and I said, What the heck?

I thought it probably wouldn't work on Windows 7 or Vista (I owned both and now I have 8 as well), but at most I'd loose a few bucks (less than $10 including postage). Well I popped it into my drive on Win 7 and it fired right up. Minutes later, I had Sydney Bristow kicking the crap out of bad guys.
Post edited April 24, 2014 by hscott2hughes
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P1na: I don't see Deus Ex on that list. Therefore, I don't like you.
Aww, don't be like that. I'll look it up for you. Let's be friends. ;)
Post edited April 24, 2014 by hscott2hughes
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hscott2hughes: Aww, don't be like that. I'll look it up for you. Let's be friends. ;)
Nah, not interested. I have more than enough friends who don't like Deus Ex, and too few who do like it, so I'm trying to expand the second category. Even if I have to get the entire world to own a copy in order to get there.

Wait, look it up? You don't know it?
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hscott2hughes: Aww, don't be like that. I'll look it up for you. Let's be friends. ;)
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P1na: Nah, not interested. I have more than enough friends who don't like Deus Ex, and too few who do like it, so I'm trying to expand the second category. Even if I have to get the entire world to own a copy in order to get there.

Wait, look it up? You don't know it?
There's a Star trek novel by that title, but the game, no. I don't recall that one. Doesn't mean I wouldn't like it, I just haven't played it. There's a lot of great games I haven't played - but at 42 I'm, still young. There's time.
Post edited April 24, 2014 by hscott2hughes
The number of titles I have actually played is, in reality, pretty limited, compared to more hardcore players. There's certain titles I'll look for and others I'll pick up at random if the description interests me. I tend to go on "gaming binges." I won't play anything for months (hey, I'm busy), but then when I'm in the mood for a game, I'll play several back to back, like four or five at a time. Then I'll go on gaming hiatus for a little while until the next binge.

Over the last twenty years, I've probably averaged about three to six games per year.
Post edited April 24, 2014 by hscott2hughes