Jonesy89: Ah, this must be the "simple math and logic" you were referring to. Well, I will grant you, it is simple, if by "simple" you are implying some deficiency in its mental faculties.
I thought it is quite obvious the amount of variable concerning these 2 giveaways is infinite. I'll point it out next time. Noted.
Jonesy89: Setting aside that you just pulled your statistics of the breakdown of the gender of members of this forum... Actually, no, let's start there. Without any hard data to work with, how are we to know that it isn't the other way around? I see your argument about the audience older games might have attracted (*might* being the key word), but it is worth pointing out that GOG also sells more recent games that might appeal to a wider market that might include females.
This is one of these variables, although I will too point out the indie market is not as big as old fanbases of classics. Again, these fanbases most likely contain both genders, but the ratio is greatly disproportionate. It's not a 1:1 ratio, as much as you would want it to be. For indie games there could be an argument that it is 1:1, at least here on GOG, given the fact it is now both socially acceptable and encouraged for females to play games (kind of ironic when you look at Californian politicians trying to lower the interest in video games).
Jonesy89: At the end of the day, we simply don't know the gender breakdown of the GOG forum users. The responses from posters might help give a rough idea, but since the sample will be composed of an entirely self-selected sample who happen to stumble onto the thread, the sample's usefulness to that end is questionable; I mean, how many people might not enter the GAs, read their threads, read the community section of the forums, or just flat out avoid the forums entirely?
I never based my assumptions on the posts from users. It doesn't give even a rough idea of current users. Too many variables to consider. To be more precise: Someone can post something on the forum occasionally, but hasn't posted anything in a few months. However, that certain individual has lurked around and still follows the forum. In such a situation you don't know how to classify that forum member, given the fact you don't know he's a lurker. He's still there, and he can stumble upon your giveaway, but for you it is improbable. The possibilities are endless. We can consider and assume anything, but the range of accuracy as far as the calculations go is huge So I decided to base my calculations on an anthropological argument, so I used how society used to view gaming simply because it seems as a more stable assumption to me. GOG's classics appeal has been around for years, while the indie one just recently emerged. While there is the possibility of a huge wave of women to have joined the community as a result of this bigger focus on the indie scene, the data is hard to come up with. You'd have to set a few limits like how long has it been since someone has posted, then count the number of people that has posted in a time interval you decided upon, then decide on the error margin of the data with the risk of being very inaccurate. Yes, this would've potentially provided a better result, but, again, the possibilities are endless. One user can be active today, and then stay away from the forum for month due to an emergency.
Jonesy89: Secondly, if there was a single giveaway that encompassed all of the forum members, *everyone* would have a lower chance of winning. With two separate ones, one for each gender, the odds of winning go up for members on each side now that a sizable portion of the competition has been cut. Is there something I'm missing here?
Yeah. You're totally missing the point of equality and how separation might provide benefits for 2 parties, but one benefits a great deal more than the other. It's like an economy boost. It benefits the poor, but it benefits a lot more the rich, who have the resources to get a lot richer. My point isn't that this is unfair, my point is that I can see why others see this as unfair. However, the simple excuse that there is another giveaway separate for males is not a viable justification for saying this giveaway is fair. I would rather take a reason like getting some interaction with the women on the forum and that there is another giveaway for men in order to avoid discrimination, than blatantly saying this giveaway is fair as far as chances go because there simply is another for the different demographic.
It's like saying that Separated but Equal was a fair thing in American history because the government provided for both demographics. That's not an efficient point of view.