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hedron: Now, I know yall love games and everything, but not every game is a 5 star game and virtually every single game listed here is 5 stars. I'm not saying that the content of the reviews is worthless, just the rating itself.

IMO, ratings should be dealt out like in school where 69 and below is a failure to meet even the lowest gameplay standards, 70-79 is average , 80-89 is an excellent game, 90-99 is a classic, 100 is a game that was made by God. Or so. Needless to say 99.99% of all games would be in between 70 and 89.
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PetrusOctavianus: That's ironic. The very notion that "70-79 is average" is excacly why nearly every review is 5 stars!

But it is relly a fact that in schools in the US "69 and below is a failure"? If so that explains a lot...
That and the fact that they permit people to review the games without actually buying them.
Giving ratings according to a predetermined "average" makes the average meaningless. An average is used to describe an existing set of numbers, not determine what the future set of numbers will be.

50% is no more a valid "average" than 70%. If people reviewed every single game in existence, or if every single game had equal chance of being reviewed, the average might be 50%. But it could also be 40% or 60% or 30%, who knows. But in reality, video games don't have equal chance of being reviewed. That's why you see a lot of high scores from game critics. They mostly review games that most gamer's are likely to be interested in. They don't review games like Secret Agent Barbie or Baby and Me.

For game user ratings too, the "average" is going to be inflated too because people are selective about what games they play. Let's face it: video games are take a lot of time to play, so people will only play games they are most interested in. So there is a selection process even before the game is played. That's why video games on GOG seem to high ratings. If the people reviewing the games were a completely random sample taken from the entire gaming population on Earth, then maybe the scores would be lower.
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doady: Giving ratings according to a predetermined "average" makes the average meaningless. An average is used to describe an existing set of numbers, not determine what the future set of numbers will be.

50% is no more a valid "average" than 70%. If people reviewed every single game in existence, or if every single game had equal chance of being reviewed, the average might be 50%. But it could also be 40% or 60% or 30%, who knows. But in reality, video games don't have equal chance of being reviewed. That's why you see a lot of high scores from game critics. They mostly review games that most gamer's are likely to be interested in. They don't review games like Secret Agent Barbie or Baby and Me.

For game user ratings too, the "average" is going to be inflated too because people are selective about what games they play. Let's face it: video games are take a lot of time to play, so people will only play games they are most interested in. So there is a selection process even before the game is played. That's why video games on GOG seem to high ratings. If the people reviewing the games were a completely random sample taken from the entire gaming population on Earth, then maybe the scores would be lower.
Sort of, the problem is that nobody uses the lowest scores. The game ratings you see in general are heavily biased towards favorable reviews where you see basically no games under 20% and most over 70%.

It's not wrong, but it indicates that the scoring system is broken as you're assigning meaningless points that are never used.
If anything, I think the ratings should be done akin to flickchart, so you get some context. IE, you don't rate a game, you pick which games you like better than others.
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nijuu: Everyone has an opinion......
Yes, but a lot of times your opinion can be wrong. And yes, despite what your grade one teacher told you, they CAN be wrong.
Post edited January 21, 2013 by anjohl
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=zYWT4uYOPvs#t=5s
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anjohl: If anything, I think the ratings should be done akin to flickchart, so you get some context. IE, you don't rate a game, you pick which games you like better than others.
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nijuu: Everyone has an opinion......
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anjohl: Yes, but a lot of times your opinion can be wrong. And yes, despite what your grade one teacher told you, they CAN be wrong.
Gee i dunno.. i swear sometimes 2+2 = 5 :P
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anjohl: If anything, I think the ratings should be done akin to flickchart, so you get some context. IE, you don't rate a game, you pick which games you like better than others.

Yes, but a lot of times your opinion can be wrong. And yes, despite what your grade one teacher told you, they CAN be wrong.
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nijuu: Gee i dunno.. i swear sometimes 2+2 = 5 :P
No, what I meant was that sometimes you can think you think something, but in actual fact you don't. It's like Apophenia, in that your mind draws from self-perpetuated falsehoods to create a reinforced falsehood.

For example, people who think a certain old game, like Deus Ex, is much, much better than it is, because their nostalgia blinds them to reality.
Only ~50 from ~500 games on GOG have 5 stars rating (according to gogmix http://www.gog.com/mix/the_best_gog_can_offer_5_star_rated_games_only ). 10% is not "virtually every single", very far from it actually. And looking at that gogmix -- of course, there are some games that clearly do not deserve the max rating. But overall it's a very solid list, better than many lists created by professional critics.
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buktu: Only ~50 from ~500 games on GOG have 5 stars rating (according to gogmix http://www.gog.com/mix/the_best_gog_can_offer_5_star_rated_games_only ). 10% is not "virtually every single", very far from it actually. And looking at that gogmix -- of course, there are some games that clearly do not deserve the max rating. But overall it's a very solid list, better than many lists created by professional critics.
4.5 and 5 are in effect the same thing, just as 1.99 = 1.00. Perception is reality.
Well there is the fact that fans of a game are fare more inclined to rate a game than non-fans. So the star-ratings are essentially useless. But reading the reviews helps, since the good ones among them not only state that they love a game, but also why. And from that you can conclude if these reasons apply to you too.

That said: this link here explains what these star ratings actually mean.
Instead of numerical values, why not rate them something like this:
Masterpiece
Very good
Quite good
Average
Not very good
Poor
Crap

Or do away with ratings completely and just write what is good and bad about the game.

Ratings are meaningless as long as the full scale is not used. But at least on GOG you don't get banned from using the whole scale. On TES Nexus you used to get banned if you have a mod a rating from the lowest half of the scale.
The trick is too look at the NUMBER of reviews. Good games have a TON of five star ratings while bad games only have a FEW five star ratings. :)
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hedron: ...the 5 star system has been rendered worthless because people don't want to rate any game that makes their list of top 1000 games of all time anything but a 5 star rating.
That's not true. I have given some 2 and 3 star rating in the past. So it's not completely worthless although I agree that the value is very low and quite limited. I proposed a system of keywords/categorization with voting on the relevance of the keywords to have a more meaningful evaluation but obviously such things do not have top priority.

http://www.gog.com/forum/general/rating_system_not_useful_enough_can_we_fix_it

Still I rely on the rating information at least to some extent. If a game has 3 stars here on GOG it very probably isn't a good game.
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anjohl: If anything, I think the ratings should be done akin to flickchart, so you get some context. IE, you don't rate a game, you pick which games you like better than others.
Agreed, or just throw a bloody 'Like-Dislike' buttons instead of star ratings, since even when someone dislikes a game, he's still likely to give it about 3 stars because 'people say it's good.'

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anjohl: For example, people who think a certain old game, like Deus Ex, is much, much better than it is, because their nostalgia blinds them to reality.
Or Morrowind, right?
Rose tinted reviews on gog, make its reviews section worthless, i never bother with the reviews on this site.