Posted March 25, 2011
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Vestin
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Registered: Sep 2008
From Poland
Posted March 25, 2011
So... What exactly was the outrage about ? Are people who talk on their cellphones in libraries a strong lobby group or something ?
The girl seems to be of average or slightly-above-average intelligence and voiced an opinion I find reasonable. While it is likely that people of narrow mental horizons will latch onto the fact that she mentioned a particular group with which she noticed a correlation... I don't think this is particularly relevant to the issue at hand.
You can argue that them being Asian is not necessarily a REASON for them annoying others at a public place where silence is expected... but as for the group of people that DO engage in this kind of disruptive behavior, you can either argue for it or against it. In other words - the apparent point of the video is: "I hate people who talk on their cellphones in libraries. It is something I experienced personally. The people who did so happened to be Asian".
The girl seems to be of average or slightly-above-average intelligence and voiced an opinion I find reasonable. While it is likely that people of narrow mental horizons will latch onto the fact that she mentioned a particular group with which she noticed a correlation... I don't think this is particularly relevant to the issue at hand.
You can argue that them being Asian is not necessarily a REASON for them annoying others at a public place where silence is expected... but as for the group of people that DO engage in this kind of disruptive behavior, you can either argue for it or against it. In other words - the apparent point of the video is: "I hate people who talk on their cellphones in libraries. It is something I experienced personally. The people who did so happened to be Asian".
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Rohan15
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Posted March 25, 2011
0_-
Funny, but really, wtf?
Funny, but really, wtf?
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choconutjoe
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Posted March 25, 2011
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She didn't "notice a correlation", she made an arbitrary link between the behavior of a handful of people and their ethnicity, and then proceeded insult and deride all people of that ethnicity based on the behavior of a handful of people.
We have a word for this: Racism. Sane people now agree it's a bad thing.
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Posted March 25, 2011
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Anyway, finally got to see those clips (was at work earlier) and I gotta say, that guy is an awesome singer!
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Vestin
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Posted March 25, 2011
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Note that all of the above dismisses the argument while implicitly assuming that if such an emergency IS the case, then you neither bother to take a few steps to leave the library before making a call, nor do you do so (at the very least) WHILE making the call.
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I filter out the people in question being Asian because *I* am not a racist. She's very particular about the things she finds annoying and sincerely doubt she would have anything against Asians AS Asians (considered apart from such behaviour OR against Asians who act differently). I also think she would hate these types of activity just as much if non-Asian people engaged in them... Which basically means that the video is about what I pointed out earlier (and observed within a given group).
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With a huge emphasis on "now"... Also - I like your usage of "sane" to denote "adhering to social norms" ;).
No, I don't.
Furthemore - that girl is most definitely not someone I would call "racist". She almost makes no assumptions whatsoever - she simply told us what she noticed.
Now - for examples of REAL racism - search the comments and you'll probably find plenty of people judging HER based on gender, hair color, breast size, etc...
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bL7vK0pOvKI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8zWH3T5RCA
I know those are long but this is one of the most fascinating people you'll ever listen to.
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hedwards
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Posted March 25, 2011
As a general rule if you have to put the sort of disclaimer on it that she did, you shouldn't be posting it to the internet.
That being said, I kind of hope she doesn't get in too much trouble, the embarrassment is more than enough punishment.
That being said, I kind of hope she doesn't get in too much trouble, the embarrassment is more than enough punishment.
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MsbS
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Registered: Sep 2008
From Poland
Posted March 26, 2011
But there is not much to dispute about in her message. Loud people in libraries are annoying. Full stop. Don't you object to Polish jokes that circulated in Germany that pictured Polish people as car thieves? Even though the fact is that there were Polish car thieves in Germany in the 1990s? It is pretty much the same thing.