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General discussion (archive)The 150 best PC games before 1997(34 posts)(34 posts)
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Posted February 17, 2011
Err loom wasn't released in 1982, who the hell researched that?
Posted February 18, 2011
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GameRager: I'm surprised there's no Halo.....:\
I'm surprised you saying this actually surprised me. -_-;
Posted February 18, 2011
Speaking of best games check out this list by a Stanford researcher on the most important games of all time. If you don't want to wade through the words (not strictly PC games but damn good selection):
Spacewar! (1962), Star Raiders (1979), Zork (1980), Tetris (1985), SimCity (1989), Super Mario Bros. 3 (1990), Civilization I/II (1991), Doom (1993), Warcraft series (beginning 1994) and Sensible World of Soccer (1994).
Posted February 18, 2011
Nice list, but I can't understand Ultima III and Ultima VI being on the list and Ultima V isn't. I think number 5 is the best game in the series.
Posted February 18, 2011
solid list, but as always, there's some things I disagree with, like Quake, which was, technical aspects aside, pretty boring game from my opinion. Then again, I never was into multiplayer, which was THE aspect of Quake.
Posted February 18, 2011
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tomimt: solid list, but as always, there's some things I disagree with, like Quake, which was, technical aspects aside, pretty boring game from my opinion. Then again, I never was into multiplayer, which was THE aspect of Quake.
Quake was in development, in one form or another, as soon as the original Commander Keen trilogy was finished. It's first incarnation was known as "The Fight For Justice", and in the game the player character was named Quake. A game usually gets a little weird when it goes through multiple rewrites and technology updates. Of course, once a franchise finds its direction, it becomes more defined. That's why Quake II was so much better.
Posted February 18, 2011
No Commander Keen? They weren't the best games ever, but I'm surprised none of them made this list.
Posted February 18, 2011
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predcon: Quake was in development, in one form or another, as soon as the original Commander Keen trilogy was finished. It's first incarnation was known as "The Fight For Justice", and in the game the player character was named Quake. A game usually gets a little weird when it goes through multiple rewrites and technology updates. Of course, once a franchise finds its direction, it becomes more defined. That's why Quake II was so much better.
I did not know that. Is there any pics of The Fight For Justice around?
I do know though, that the original ideas for Quake were much grander than the final product was. I remember one game magazine article from way back when, in which Sandy Peteres was hyping all those cool ideas, like injured enemis, which would try to run and hide, while leaving a blood trace you could follow and so on. There even was talk about RPG elements.
Post edited February 18, 2011 by tomimt
Posted February 18, 2011
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.......There was a video game in 1962?
Posted February 18, 2011
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predcon: Quake was in development, in one form or another, as soon as the original Commander Keen trilogy was finished. It's first incarnation was known as "The Fight For Justice", and in the game the player character was named Quake. A game usually gets a little weird when it goes through multiple rewrites and technology updates. Of course, once a franchise finds its direction, it becomes more defined. That's why Quake II was so much better.
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tomimt: I did not know that. Is there any pics of The Fight For Justice around?
I do know though, that the original ideas for Quake were much grander than the final product was. I remember one game magazine article from way back when, in which Sandy Peteres was hyping all those cool ideas, like injured enemis, which would try to run and hide, while leaving a blood trace you could follow and so on. There even was talk about RPG elements.
I don't know about screenshots, but iD talks a little bit about the game in the "Previews!" section of Episode 1 of Commander Keen, under the heading "Coming Soon from from iD Games".

Here's a link to a thread on the 3DRealms board about it, with comments from Joe Siegler and John Romero.
Post edited February 18, 2011 by predcon
Posted February 18, 2011
Good list, though why they start at number 1 I'll never know. No suspense in knowing what #1 is first. :P I would personally have a lot more adventure games and CRPGs on mine though.
Posted February 18, 2011
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carnival73: ...
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.......There was a video game in 1962?
Pfft, sure if you were a noob!

Take a look at the 1958 entry

and people complain that the xbox controller is too big...
Posted February 18, 2011
Prince of Persia is way too low on the list. How is flight simulator II a better game? I've played all the microsoft flight simulators that were released before 1997. So FS1 - FS95. I personally thought FS 5.0 was the best of the bunch but the consensus is usually that it's predecessor FS 4.0 or Flight Unlimited from Looking Glass are the best of the pre '97 commercial flight sims
Posted July 16, 2011
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predcon: I'm pleased to see Lemmings made #12. Less pleased to see Shadow of the Beast made #76. However, on a list that compares mostly PC games, and given it's "esotericity", that's to be expected, so I guess I should be content that it made the list at all. I suspect it would do better on a list of "The Best Amiga Games Ever".
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Delixe: Hell of a lot of those titles were far superior on the Amiga like Bards Tale and anything Cinemaware. I remain hopeful that one day GOG will have Amiga emulation for very old titles.
+1 from me also.
I noticed no Zeewolf, not even an Elite game on there,....shocking! At least Civvy was there though
Posted July 16, 2011
i find the lack of settlers very disturbing.
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