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Yes, that would be lovely. It's actually planned, already, to bring in someone who will be assisting me in community management, but it's not going to happen tonight.
What's funny is that you're suggesting the use of force as a solution ;P.
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gameon: Unmoderated boards (even just for a few minutes) is the complete opposite...
I would hope it takes longer than a few minutes for you guys to go all Hunger Games on each other. >.>
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TheEnigmaticT: I'm off to go monkey around on camera. Let's keep this civil while I'm away so that we aren't horrifying anyone who comes by for a visit, eh?
I can't believe you have to make this point every time this happens, like we have the short term memory of three year olds.
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gameon: Unmoderated boards (even just for a few minutes) is the complete opposite...
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TheEnigmaticT: I would hope it takes longer than a few minutes for you guys to go all Hunger Games on each other. >.>
Psssh, Hunger Games? It's Battle Royale all the way, baby!
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Tallima: Seriously. You make $250,000 (in the U.S.) or more and they're going to execute you? Goodbye surgeons. Goodbye CEOs. Buh-bye venture capital and their firms. Take the Internet off-line. Stop selling computers. Stop engineering cars. Stop building houses. Stop drilling for oil.

And then after all that's done, we'll have another 1% to complain about. And then kill them.

There are jerks out there. We can give them pressure to not be jerks. But usually, it just takes a few generations to watch their money fall into someone else's hands.

People need to worry about themselves more and others less.
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Tormentfan: I love it when people do this, back up their point of view with numbers they made up, it just makes them sound like more of an idiot.

No-one mentioned any numbers, and even if they did, I'd hardly call $250,000 rich these days in terms of world wealth and top incomes... It would certainly be along the lines of multiple millions in annual income, and the only people of any worth you mention, the surgeons, still wouldn't, generally, be making that kind of money... but yes, the other, the CEO's, venture capitalists.. yeah they can go, maybe they should even be first against the wall.
You speak about wealth in relative terms. You want to kill those more fortunate than you, arbitrarily setting the point that is deemed "rich."

I was using the 250k tax-break-marker that people are talking about in the U.S. to signify "the rich" taxwise. The top 1% in the U.S. makes as low as 350,000k a few years back (according to something I saw). But if we want to talk about globally, then let's.

Does your household make $34,000 USD or more per year? Then go blow your face off.
(source: http://money.cnn.com/2012/01/04/news/economy/world_richest/index.htm )

The disparity of wealth is obviously not solved by psychopaths. When wealthy people apply their money to make more wealth, a bunch of them lose it. A bunch of them gain it. And everyone under them gains something, too (namely, a job).

Wealth through the ages has turned over. Poor get rich. Rich get poor. It's the way of things. And some families stay rich for a while. Some for hundreds of years. But they, too, eventually lose their wealth.

I tend to judge people on their hearts, no their pocketbooks. That is true wealth. It's true that money can corrupt people -- and it often does. But a man's wealth is still not a good judge of that person's character.
Violence is never justified? Not even to stop the violent?

If you say so.
Post edited April 05, 2012 by generalripper
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Vestin: What's funny is that you're suggesting the use of force as a solution ;P.
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gameon: I'm not, i simply want more mods to be on the forum, because enigmaticT does all the work himself.
What about we just behave in way to not require additional mods?
It worked good for more than 3 years without mods.
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gameon: Then we wouldn't need any more mods. I'm just saying that its a bit naff to have a forum with no moderation at certain times.
So it is better to get mods instead of behaving nicely?
And because of those certain times we need ever-present strong police force?
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Tallima: You speak about wealth in relative terms. You want to kill those more fortunate than you, arbitrarily setting the point that is deemed "rich."

I was using the 250k tax-break-marker that people are talking about in the U.S. to signify "the rich" taxwise. The top 1% in the U.S. makes as low as 350,000k a few years back (according to something I saw). But if we want to talk about globally, then let's.

Does your household make $34,000 USD or more per year? Then go blow your face off.
(source: http://money.cnn.com/2012/01/04/news/economy/world_richest/index.htm )

The disparity of wealth is obviously not solved by psychopaths. When wealthy people apply their money to make more wealth, a bunch of them lose it. A bunch of them gain it. And everyone under them gains something, too (namely, a job).
Are you purposefully missing the entire point of why this thread appeared in the first place or is it pure accident?

It was originally about the redistribution of wealth, why is that relevent to a particular country's tax rate, why would you even state that as a number. From the top 1% who own most of the world wealth, not about how might be earning more money than the next guy.. and certainly not about an average $34,000 wage bracket. As for judging wealth globally.. , it HAS to be, it's as simple as that.

All the money in the world doesn't sit in a bank somwhere in America you know, it's scattered all over in all kinds of shell and tax dodging accounts, That's IF it's in a 'bank' at all, mostly the wealth if judged by capital holdings of major multinational companies which by their very definition again aren't American, even if they might be sited there, so siting any one country's tax laws or considerations doesn't hold any relevence in this topic, not that there's much of any kind of relevence in this thread

Wealth through the ages has turned over. Poor get rich. Rich get poor. It's the way of things. And some families stay rich for a while. Some for hundreds of years. But they, too, eventually lose their wealth.

I tend to judge people on their hearts, no their pocketbooks. That is true wealth. It's true that money can corrupt people -- and it often does. But a man's wealth is still not a good judge of that person's character.
Again, it has NOTHIING to do with judging people whether you do it by their heart or by anything else for that matter, in the consideration of 90% of the world's wealth being held by 1% of the people.. in THAT context, the ONLY thing of relevence is how much is in their wallet.
"The 1% who have put us in the position where humanity has no value."

Speak for yourself, Mr. Writer Guy. Putting a dollar value on the worth of humanity is a really dumb way of looking at things. For one, it causes people to devalue themselves when they find they don't measure up monetarily, and therefore helps to perpetuate the falsehood of a direct correlation between wealth and human value. But it also shoves aside all of the other good and bad found in people.

Seems like a really crass way of looking at life. Speaking for myself, I don't think I'm worth any less just because someone else has amassed hundreds of millions in net worth.

Thus, I don't buy into the whole "kill the rich" way of thinking. For the most part, that is. We can blame rich people or the silent middle class or the entitled poor, but there are none richer than the governments we live under. The wealth, influence, good and bad deeds, etc., all pale in comparison to what nations do with their magnitudes-larger amounts of money (and debt).
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Badash: Also, Bill Gates only created one of the most world changing(for the better) products in history, should we drag him out of his home and lynch him because he's worth billions?
He did a lot, but let's be real... the software industry would have more than managed without him.

The contributions of mathematicians and theoretical scientists like Einstein, Gauss, Euler or Newton were a lot more far reaching, but these gents didn't get even 1% of the fortune Bill Gates got.

I find it's funny how some people have a grandiose idea of their place in the scheme of things... as if they can figure out anything that is so intricate or unique that nobody else in the hundreds of billions of people who now walk the Earth and who will walk the Earth can figure it out.

However, I'll give props to Mr Gates in that he probably realized his own insignificance when he decided to focus on charity instead of increasing his assets.

We are all small grains of sand in an extremely large beach so let's stop thinking of ourselves as gods and just try to contribute our insignificant little part while enjoying ourselves.
Post edited April 05, 2012 by Magnitus
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XmXFLUXmX: The "99%" need to quit doing drugs, quit listening to left-wing media, and just get a job or invest time and money into something, or better yet, start their own business, instead of demanding everything for free from the government.
You and your 'Lefties do drugs' crap. Not all of us do that, and even if we were to all run a business, not everyone would be successful nor have the skills to even start and manage one. Communist or not, he is still more stable sounding than you.
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uulav: http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2012/apr/04/aki-kaurismaki-le-havre-interview

"The only way for mankind to get out of this misery is to kill the 1% who own everything. The 1% who have put us in the position where humanity has no value. The rich. And the politicians who are the puppies of the rich."
Lenin is forever alive.
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kalirion: Psssh, Hunger Games? It's Battle Royale all the way, baby!
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gameon: Awesome movie
Better book. Even better manga! :)

but battle royale was about killing spoiled kids, mostly ;P
Post edited April 05, 2012 by keeveek