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Of course the PC developement is easier & more profitable. First the PC rocks. Second the PC would lack a LOT of the licencing fees and none of the external certification. Finally its their comfort zone, not hard to make things easier when you've been doing them for 20+ years
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DarrkPhoenix: I say it's more that many (most?) PC gamers still very clearly remember expansions (before they were bastardized into DLC). We remember paying 50-60% of what the original title cost, and getting at least 20 more hours of gameplay out of it. Since you already brought up Oblivion DLC, I'll continue using it as an example. For many of the folks who had played Morrowind, then bought both Tribunal and Bloodmoon, the horse armor DLC (and the 4-5 additional ones that followed) were like a slap in the face. It was insulting. But I think that console owners (and someone correct me if I'm flat out wrong about any of this), not really ever having had proper expansions, didn't see such minimal DLC as an insult or ripoff in anywhere near the same way that PC gamers did, and I think this divide it history and the resulting perceptions is still quite strong when it comes to DLC across most titles.

This is quite true but the advantage of DECENT DC is that it adds a moderate amount of content to a game for about the price of a $10 GOG. A good 3-4 hours for au$13-15 isn't a bad deal, still better than you get from a DVD. For stuff like the Fallout 3 addons or the new gears of war maps & story chapter thing, thats a pretty good amount of replayable entertainment for that amount of cash. On the other hand, the Jedi Temple level for The Force Unleashed wasn't what I'd call good value, it was short, didn't really add much to the game and wasn't integrated into the main game but was basiclly treated as a campaign in and of itself. Kind of shoddy but I picked it up on special for half price so it was probably worth that.
By sharp contrast, The Lost & Damned addon for GTA4 was a proper full on authentic expansion in the finest of PC tradition. A new campaign of about 10-20 hours (depends how much you powered through it and ignored the environment in favour of nothing but missions), a good solid fully acted story interwoven with the original, heaps of new (and actually GOOD) music, new friend activities, vehicles, guns, digital penis... the works and for less than the price of 2 GOGs! Its an object example of how DLC should be done (aside from the platform exclusivity, that part is "teh ghey") and I'm eagerly anticipating The Ballad Of Gay Tony and expecting something of the same quality.
Post edited August 04, 2009 by Aliasalpha
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Aliasalpha: This is quite true but the advantage of DECENT DC is that it adds a moderate amount of content to a game for about the price of a $10 GOG. A good 3-4 hours for au$13-15 isn't a bad deal, still better than you get from a DVD.

Personally I wouldn't consider 3-4 hours of content for $10-15 a good deal, but I also tend to buy games for the long haul (I generally expect 30+ hours out of a $40-50 game, not even counting replay value, and my expectations scale linearly). But I also realize I'm probably in a very small minority with regards to my expectations, so many others may very well consider some of the DLC out there a good deal. I suppose there's also the issue that the terminology is becoming a bit blurred, with "DLC" coming to mean any additional content that's downloaded (not surprising really, given what the term stands for), with no distinction being made between downloadable content that's a full expansion in its own right, and DLC that is just the developer nickel and diming their customers for as much as they can.
Thats 3-4 hours of content with moderately decent replay value. I expect that the people who bought the jedi temple mission for TFU were a bit disappointed that it really lacked any variety after you beat it the first time (especially since you hd to beat it 4 times if you wanted all the achievements, difficulty achievements not stacking is just shit). I expect more from the Fallout 3 addons, at least some variety even if its only between angelic never hurt a kitten sickly goodness and moustache twirling evil for the sake of being able to laugh maniacally and without any other real reason
I won't be surprised when the tomb raider underworld addons I plan to buy on friday end up being much of the same story as the TFU one, fun for one or two goes and then boring
As long as DLC is generally good, extends the game I like in a manner that doesn't ruin the original and doesn't cost an arm and a leg for bugger all content, I'm fine with it. If, on the other hand, its lazy, lame, overpriced and superficial (horse armour, character costumes with extra revealing cleavage areas) or is simply buying cheats (looking at you here Dead Space) then I just laugh and move on.
As far as length goes, the Telltale games average at about 4 hours long, that seems to work nicely for them
Post edited August 05, 2009 by Aliasalpha
Did I mention that I love Telltale?
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TheJoe: I love Telltale.
I hug Telltale.
I make dinner for Telltale.
I have babies for Telltale.
I love Telltale.

I love them too, threesome?
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TheJoe: I love Telltale.
I hug Telltale.
I make dinner for Telltale.
I have babies for Telltale.
I love Telltale.
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nicolaierdk: I love them too, threesome?

make it 4
Post edited August 05, 2009 by Aliasalpha
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soulgrindr: PC users always used to buy expansion packs though...

DLC is not the same as expansions, however, with the obvious exception of expansion-level content from developers like Rockstar (The Lost and Damned and the upcoming Gay Tony) and Bethesda (Shivering Isles). The vast majority of DLC is of a piece-meal variety with a few missions/cars/weapons/songs/llamas/etc. thrown into an arbitrary package.
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Aliasalpha: By sharp contrast, The Lost & Damned addon for GTA4 was a proper full on authentic expansion in the finest of PC tradition. A new campaign of about 10-20 hours (depends how much you powered through it and ignored the environment in favour of nothing but missions), a good solid fully acted story interwoven with the original, heaps of new (and actually GOOD) music, new friend activities, vehicles, guns, digital penis... the works and for less than the price of 2 GOGs! Its an object example of how DLC should be done (aside from the platform exclusivity, that part is "teh ghey") and I'm eagerly anticipating The Ballad Of Gay Tony and expecting something of the same quality.

You speak the truth. Didn't realize Rockstar offered so much for so little..I sorta figured otherwise since they were so bearish with the DRM for the game.
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nicolaierdk: I love them too, threesome?
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Aliasalpha: make it 4

What are you sure? We're all guys!
At least I think so. Not sure about Aliasalpha.
Post edited August 05, 2009 by TheJoe
Well I know I am. I figured telltale was a girl
Post edited August 05, 2009 by Aliasalpha
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Aliasalpha: Well I know I am. I figured telltale was a girl

The avatar, the title, the ambiguous handle.
Overall it's hard to tell. You know.
And apart from Emily who left Telltale now, Telltale is mostly all guys.
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Aliasalpha: Well I know I am. I figured telltale was a girl
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TheJoe: The avatar, the title, the ambiguous handle.
Overall it's hard to tell. You know.
And apart from Emily who left Telltale now, Telltale is mostly all guys.

Emily left? Damn, she was a top support officer
Post edited August 05, 2009 by Aliasalpha
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TheJoe: The avatar, the title, the ambiguous handle.
Overall it's hard to tell. You know.
And apart from Emily who left Telltale now, Telltale is mostly all guys.
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Aliasalpha: Emily left? Famn, she was a top support officer

To become a writer, of all things.
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Aliasalpha: Emily left? Famn, she was a top support officer
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TheJoe: To become a writer, of all things.

I hope she at least raises the standard of modern day game writings... or are we talking about books?
ps. Im still in :o
Post edited August 05, 2009 by nicolaierdk
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TheJoe: To become a writer, of all things.
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nicolaierdk: I hope she at least raises the standard of modern day game writings... or are we talking about books?
ps. Im still in :o

I think it's books 'n' a blog.
Well anyway, just slept with Telltale again.... They're so good.