Posted February 05, 2014

Smannesman
4-bit classic
Registered: Oct 2010
From Netherlands

mabrookes
mmm . . . things
Registered: Jan 2009
From United Kingdom
Posted February 05, 2014

A permanent implant that allows you to see in the dark would be a cybernetic implant wearing night vision goggles is not. There are some grey areas around as things change I would agree with that, but the use of external tools is not one of them - using glasses, tools, crutches, binoculars etc is not, by any definition, cybernetic which was my main point really.

F4LL0UT
Get Showgunners!
Registered: Jun 2011
From Poland
Posted February 05, 2014
Post edited February 05, 2014 by F4LL0UT

mabrookes
mmm . . . things
Registered: Jan 2009
From United Kingdom

Crosmando
chrono commando
Registered: Jan 2012
From Australia

RaggieRags
Schattenjäger
Registered: Dec 2009
From Finland
Posted February 05, 2014
This. These technologies are being developed for the ill and the disabled, not for 'fun'. Many of them are about improving the quality of life for the disabled, and some can save lives.

Tomkel
New User
Registered: Apr 2012
From United States

Lionel212008
Hedonistic pig
Registered: Jan 2011
From Other
Posted February 05, 2014

What do you guys think?
http://listverse.com/2013/12/11/10-body-parts-science-is-replacing/
Still, there is a lot of promise that something like nano-technology holds.With nanotech there is no need for such incessant paranoia. Imagine, tiny cellular robots constantly protecting you from cellular de-generation. We would be young forever and ageing would be a thing of the past. Despite the implications, it is unlikely that the mainstream would ever have access to such technology.

HereForTheBeer
Positive Patty
Registered: Oct 2009
From United States
Posted February 05, 2014
It would make for some interesting changes in sports, to be sure, either ending many sports as we now know them or by leading to the creation of parallel "enhanced leagues".

hedwards
buy Evil Genius
Registered: Nov 2008
From United States
Posted February 05, 2014

Unfortunately,by the time the average FB user understands the consequences the rest of us are going to be out of luck.


Cybernetics are things that are installed in the body and can not be easily removed. We have already crossed the line into this with a pace maker for the heart. As time goes on and tech improves we will see more of this.
The thing that worries me are the social consequences of genetic and cybernetic improvements. These improvements will be expensive, so only the rich will be able to take advantage of them. This poses a big problem. Two divergent species.
In our evolutionary history, whenever more than one type of human existed at the same time, the superior one either wipes out (through breeding or killing) the other, or they enslave the inferior. In recorded history, no ethnic group has proven to be superior to any other and racial prejudice is an erroneous human construct. However, what if the rich genetically engineer themselves to actually be superior to everyone else? What happens next? Will the rest of us quietly allow them to dominate us? Some would argue that people already allow the rich to dominate us economically, so what is the difference? True. However, right now the only thing the rich have that everyone else does not is just money. What if they also possessed superior abilities? Then they would feel justified in their discrimination.
I see a great struggle ahead for the entire human race.
Post edited February 05, 2014 by hedwards

C17
Old User
Registered: Oct 2008
From United States
Posted February 05, 2014
It is natural to fear the unknown, evolutionary left over... Still has it's uses.
However being a Democratic Transhumanist, I am all for modification or augmentation of the human body. As long as the parties involved have a choice. And in general the technology is used to enhance lives, not deprive them.
I personally understand people's fear of such things, I was born in the 80's. To me privacy means something more sacrosanct than it does to today's general youth. Or those who espouse a new technological and societal revolution through social media. I fundamentally understand the principles at play in those avenues of thought and philosophy. Certainly the world would be a better place if it was more open, transparent, free?
Change can be frightening, and its rational to be cautious in this world. However the ability to affect one's life for the better through prosthetic, artifical organs, genetic treatments, nano technology, is a good thing. But the fear is that at some point these technologies as they improve will become superior to the average stock. And people will be left behind. Granted this is decades away, and may never come to pass. Fear generally precedes the action or consequence.
The world is about change, it is like lightning: fast, bright, and of a great ferocity. These things can frighten us, and this is why discussion is both democratic and valuable. But in the end we must all hope that when the darkness dawns, no matter what it may be: Rational or Irrational. There are those of us who stand against it.
However being a Democratic Transhumanist, I am all for modification or augmentation of the human body. As long as the parties involved have a choice. And in general the technology is used to enhance lives, not deprive them.
I personally understand people's fear of such things, I was born in the 80's. To me privacy means something more sacrosanct than it does to today's general youth. Or those who espouse a new technological and societal revolution through social media. I fundamentally understand the principles at play in those avenues of thought and philosophy. Certainly the world would be a better place if it was more open, transparent, free?
Change can be frightening, and its rational to be cautious in this world. However the ability to affect one's life for the better through prosthetic, artifical organs, genetic treatments, nano technology, is a good thing. But the fear is that at some point these technologies as they improve will become superior to the average stock. And people will be left behind. Granted this is decades away, and may never come to pass. Fear generally precedes the action or consequence.
The world is about change, it is like lightning: fast, bright, and of a great ferocity. These things can frighten us, and this is why discussion is both democratic and valuable. But in the end we must all hope that when the darkness dawns, no matter what it may be: Rational or Irrational. There are those of us who stand against it.

F4LL0UT
Get Showgunners!
Registered: Jun 2011
From Poland
Posted February 05, 2014

Btw, I wonder, does an inflatable penis make someone a cyborg?

ET3D
Always a noob
Registered: Oct 2008
From Clipperton Island
Posted February 05, 2014
Considering that Google doesn't allow such applications, I'm not too worried about that. Though frankly that's the one killer app I'd love, an app that would tell me the names of all the people I see and where I know them from.

F4LL0UT
Get Showgunners!
Registered: Jun 2011
From Poland
Posted February 05, 2014
What Google says and what Google does are two different things. After all, even organizations that were legally bound to respect their users' privacy have also been giving sensitive data to intelligence agencies. The crappiest thing would be if some secretive organizations actually did get to use Google's technology this way while the public weren't aware of that. Plus Google generally has a "we do because we can" philosophy and additionally tends to accuse others of evil practices while following them themselves. Promising that this use of Google Glass will not be possible for ethical reasons, while it's technically perfectly possible, isn't quite enough to convince me that nobody is ever going to use it. All I'm sure of is that the average consumer isn't going to be able to do it out of the box.
Post edited February 05, 2014 by F4LL0UT

VABlitz
Desert Ranger
Registered: Jul 2012
From United States
Posted February 05, 2014

I only look forward to my superhuman vision. My eyes have always sucked and I would love to have superior vision. Although, with how my knees and ankles can become painful...robot legs and arms would be welcome as well. Ooh robot arms, imagine the fragfests involved after that procedure.
Post edited February 05, 2014 by jjsimp