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Posted January 09, 2010
This would be handy, wouldn't it? There seem to be a lot of computer-knowledgeable people around, and we all run into hardware issues and the like now and then. So here's starting.
I've been having a lot of trouble with my memory on my K9N6PGM2-V board the past few months.
It used to detect 2GB, then since I've formatted, switched to Windows 7 and back, etc etc. Somewhere along the way, only 1GB of my 2GB of RAM was being used.
Originally I had two identical sticks of 1GB OCZ PC2 8500 5-5-5@2.1V. OCZ sent me a replacement for one of the sticks, and then another recently which is identical except SLI ready, because the previous stick was discontinued.
Anyway, these are my tests:
Slot A - Old ram - 2 quick beeps + 5 beeps / no display
Slot A - New ram - 2 quick beeps + 5 beeps / no display
Slot B - New ram - no display
Slot B - Old ram - works as normal
Only 1GB is detected in the bios as well. I've fiddled with timings, voltage, speed, etc. I've reset to defaults, recommended settings by OCZ, etc etc. Flashed my bios (properly), basically tried everything I can think of. I have suspected the RAM speed is trying to load up at 1066 (default), whereas my mobo supports up to 800mhz, but don't know how I'd address this. It's currently set to 800...
If anyone has an idea, it'd be greatly appreciated. DXdiag is attached (rename extension to .txt).
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Post edited January 09, 2010 by chautemoc
Posted January 09, 2010
Both sticks would work at the lowest speed. I'm assuming your other stick is 800 and the one they sent you is 1066. If so then the 1066 would also be operating at 800.
That said it becomes an issue of why your motherboard can't use anything faster than 800. Can it simply not handle anything faster? Or can it not even recognise anything faster.
Either way, flashing the BIOS with an updated version may well increase what it's capable of recognising and allow you to use the provided RAM.
Posted January 09, 2010
It may also be that the new RAM stick doesn't like being run at 800 and doesn't work reliably at that speed.
I've had such problems before, though that was with sticks from two different manufacturers, different speeds, different sizes, and they definitely didn't like working together.
Post edited January 09, 2010 by Miaghstir
Posted January 09, 2010
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chautemoc: This would be handy, wouldn't it? There seem to be a lot of computer-knowledgeable people around, and we all run into hardware issues and the like now and then. So here's starting.
I've been having a lot of trouble with my memory on my K9N6PGM2-V board the past few months.
It used to detect 2GB, then since I've formatted, switched to Windows 7 and back, etc etc. Somewhere along the way, only 1GB of my 2GB of RAM was being used.
Originally I had two identical sticks of 1GB OCZ PC2 8500 5-5-5@2.1V. OCZ sent me a replacement for one of the sticks, and then another recently which is identical except SLI ready, because the previous stick was discontinued.
Anyway, these are my tests:
Slot A - Old ram - 2 quick beeps + 5 beeps / no display
Slot A - New ram - 2 quick beeps + 5 beeps / no display
Slot B - New ram - no display
Slot B - Old ram - works as normal
Only 1GB is detected in the bios as well. I've fiddled with timings, voltage, speed, etc. I've reset to defaults, recommended settings by OCZ, etc etc. Flashed my bios (properly), basically tried everything I can think of. I have suspected the RAM speed is trying to load up at 1066 (default), whereas my mobo supports up to 800mhz, but don't know how I'd address this. It's currently set to 800...
If anyone has an idea, it'd be greatly appreciated. DXdiag is attached (rename extension to .txt).

I have check your motherboard site and downloaded the manual, first, your motherboard maximum speed is 800Mhz so, you wont run your memory faster than that,
Secondly, Your memory modules seems fine, It is bank 1 that is foobar, check carefully in it if there is not a small piece of paper or dust on the contacts in the slot. If not, it is most likely the bank that died. As for why new ram does not work in slot B, it can be for many reason but first, try to solve the bank A problem first and confirm that your Bios memory settings are the defaults one.
Post edited January 09, 2010 by Mobidoy
Posted January 09, 2010
Sorry, to be clear, both sticks are 1066. Mobo can support up to 800mhz (I can only see options up to this high in the bios settings).
I noticed on AMD's site 1066 speed only works with X2 7000 series RAM (not what I have). So possibly it's trying to run at 1066 and running into issues with the CPU. Or something.
Yeah, I should note before one stick would work in either slot. Now it seems it doesn't want to do that. I checked the slots..nothing out of the ordinary.
Thanks for the help so far. :(
Edit: upon very close inspection, I see a small blackish mark in one of the slots. I'm guessing something exploded. :(
Co-worker suggested I just get a 1X2GB replacement. Possibly OCZ can comp me, or someone at work.
Post edited January 09, 2010 by chautemoc
Posted January 09, 2010
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chautemoc: Sorry, to be clear, both sticks are 1066. Mobo can support up to 800mhz (I can only see options up to this high in the bios settings).
I noticed on AMD's site 1066 speed only works with X2 7000 series RAM (not what I have). So possibly it's trying to run at 1066 and running into issues with the CPU. Or something.
Yeah, I should note before one stick would work in either slot. Now it seems it doesn't want to do that. I checked the slots..nothing out of the ordinary.
Thanks for the help so far. :(
Edit: upon very close inspection, I see a small blackish mark in one of the slots. I'm guessing something exploded. :(
Co-worker suggested I just get a 1X2GB replacement. Possibly OCZ can comp me, or someone at work.

DDR II 800 is only for Athlon 64 X2, so no, there is no way to run at 1066 with this MoBo.
Yes getting 1 2gb memory module could solve it. You could also look for a motherboard that would accept your Cpu and the Memory module that you already have for the same price.
Ebay could be your friend :)
If you can find something to clean the contacts, you may solve your issue, this black spot can be what is preventing proper contact. Try a nail file, a slim one :)
Post edited January 09, 2010 by Mobidoy
Posted January 09, 2010
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Mobidoy: DDR II 800 is only for Athlon 64 X2, so no, there is no way to run at 1066 with this MoBo.
Yes getting 1 2gb memory module could solve it. You could also look for a motherboard that would accept your Cpu and the Memory module that you already have for the same price.
Ebay could be your friend :)
If you can find something to clean the contacts, you may solve your issue, this black spot can be what is preventing proper contact. Try a nail file, a slim one :)

Oooh mobo replacement is even better. I found a good replacement...didn't realize how cheap it could be.
Yeah, I thought that too. I used paper. :P
I'll look around for something else I could use...
Posted January 09, 2010
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Mobidoy: DDR II 800 is only for Athlon 64 X2, so no, there is no way to run at 1066 with this MoBo.
Yes getting 1 2gb memory module could solve it. You could also look for a motherboard that would accept your Cpu and the Memory module that you already have for the same price.
Ebay could be your friend :)
If you can find something to clean the contacts, you may solve your issue, this black spot can be what is preventing proper contact. Try a nail file, a slim one :)
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chautemoc: Oooh mobo replacement is even better. I found a good replacement...didn't realize how cheap it could be.
Yeah, I thought that too. I used paper. :P
I'll look around for something else I could use...

Sand paper could also do the job, just get something not too large and blow in the slot to remove any residue...
Posted January 09, 2010
You don't want to go with just one stick... You want to keep it identical sizes (and models if possible) in two at once...
Boards these days will be using dual channel for extra bandwidth - and that helps a lot in many applications. If you only have one stick of RAM in there you will be halving your available bandwidth....
This is similar to the old EDORAM days when we had SIMMs not DIMMs (anyone remember those? ah the fond memories of upgrading 72pin SIMMs in pairs....)
This is why it is recommended to upgrade pairs at a time and your motherboard manual will state that you should fill the sockets in a certain order for maximum efficiency... It's also why corsair etc sell pairs at a time now rather than just one stick at a time...
Posted January 09, 2010
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Mobidoy: Sand paper could also do the job, just get something not too large and blow in the slot to remove any residue...

I used rubbing alcohol (recommended to me) and tissue paper. That seemed to do a pretty good job, but didn't fix the issue. Gonna go for this motherboard, then finally grab Win7 next week...I was waiting to upgrade so I could still play my games on it. :)
Thanks for the help sir.
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jimbob0i0: You don't want to go with just one stick... You want to keep it identical sizes (and models if possible) in two at once...
Boards these days will be using dual channel for extra bandwidth - and that helps a lot in many applications. If you only have one stick of RAM in there you will be halving your available bandwidth....
This is similar to the old EDORAM days when we had SIMMs not DIMMs (anyone remember those? ah the fond memories of upgrading 72pin SIMMs in pairs....)
This is why it is recommended to upgrade pairs at a time and your motherboard manual will state that you should fill the sockets in a certain order for maximum efficiency... It's also why corsair etc sell pairs at a time now rather than just one stick at a time...

Cool, I had no idea. Thank you.
Post edited January 09, 2010 by chautemoc
Posted January 09, 2010
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jimbob0i0: This is similar to the old EDORAM days when we had SIMMs not DIMMs (anyone remember those? ah the fond memories of upgrading 72pin SIMMs in pairs....)

Heh, I remember 30 pin SIMMs back from when I first started putting together computers in high school. 72 pin SIMMs seemed extremely cool and beefy in comparison when I first got to work with them.
Posted January 09, 2010
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chautemoc: I used rubbing alcohol (recommended to me) and tissue paper. That seemed to do a pretty good job, but didn't fix the issue. Gonna go for this motherboard, then finally grab Win7 next week...I was waiting to upgrade so I could still play my games on it. :)
Thanks for the help sir.

You better go with This one instead, it is a 2-3$ more expensive but support 1066 Mhz memory instead of the 800 Mhz of the one you chose.
Posted January 09, 2010
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chautemoc: Gonna go for this motherboard,

My only concern on that motherboard is the poor placement of SATA ports. A long graphics card (such as the 200 series) would completely block one, if not both ports. Also, only having two ports would mean only two internal drives. Which is a little limiting.
Posted January 09, 2010
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jimbob0i0: This is similar to the old EDORAM days when we had SIMMs not DIMMs (anyone remember those? ah the fond memories of upgrading 72pin SIMMs in pairs....)
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DarrkPhoenix: Heh, I remember 30 pin SIMMs back from when I first started putting together computers in high school. 72 pin SIMMs seemed extremely cool and beefy in comparison when I first got to work with them.

Hehe I recall trying to salvage what hardware I could (RAM was expensive in those days...) with a 30pin to 72pin adaptor... It fit 4 30pin modules in a 72pin slot. It was one way to do partial upgrades when I could only afford a CPU, motherboard or RAM ;)
Oh and the pain of Intels redesign of sockets... I got stiffed on the P75 I had... the socket would only let me upgrade to a P90 before I had to get a whole new board.... Socket 7 lasted ages though thanks to AMD.
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chautemoc: Gonna go for this motherboard,
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Navagon: My only concern on that motherboard is the poor placement of SATA ports. A long graphics card (such as the 200 series) would completely block one, if not both ports. Also, only having two ports would mean only two internal drives. Which is a little limiting.

Well it has one IDE port too..... if you only had one optical drive you could use the other for disk storage.... Your current board has the same 2SATA 1IDE though so if you can only envisage 2hard drives and 2 optical drives (or 3 hard drives and 1 optical) then that's fine.... I currently have 4 harddrives and 2 optical in mine (3 SATA, rest IDE) heh....
Only 2 DIMM sockets too - I'd have preferred 4 as a RAM upgrade would have to replace the RAM currently in the board rather than add to it - that could get very costly....
If it's all he can do within his budget it is fairly nice overall....
Post edited January 09, 2010 by jimbob0i0
Posted January 09, 2010
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Mobidoy: You better go with This one instead, it is a 2-3$ more expensive but support 1066 Mhz memory instead of the 800 Mhz of the one you chose.

Nope the other supports 1066. And I'm more trusting of Gigabyte than Asus.
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Navagon: My only concern on that motherboard is the poor placement of SATA ports. A long graphics card (such as the 200 series) would completely block one, if not both ports. Also, only having two ports would mean only two internal drives. Which is a little limiting.

Mine's a Radeon 4830. Pretty long. But I only use one HD/DVD drive anyway.
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jimbob0i0: If it's all he can do within his budget it is fairly nice overall....

Yip, it's what I'm after. And it's sort of an interim solution until I can eventually afford a full on board, DDR3 RAM, new CPU, etc.
I was recommended this instead. Apparently the NVIDIA chipset sucks, although I haven't had complaints with it for my current board. I tend to go the minimalist route. I could afford it but dunno if it'd be worth it for me.
Post edited January 09, 2010 by chautemoc
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