Well they're bound to have an opinion on the matter. And I doubt the fakes, phonies and lack of actual supporting evidence helps. Plus, with things like fortune telling, horoscopes and the like it really is entirely fake. Most things, like ghosts simply aren't something you're going to find any real evidence of. So despite not having reached any conclusions on the matter myself, I can understand why they'd dismiss it.

You said I was trolling yet it looks like youre trolling me, Pal. ^_^ Yeah its called putting an animal to sleep. Sure it sucks but it happens. So if you become a vegetable wracked with a fatal disease you wouldn't want to be euthanised? If so then I hope thats your out come in life. Better to be at peace than die an agonizing slow death. May not be at love but I feel its the right thing to do.

Death is still Death no matter how you look at it. Animals suffer in pain, beg for their lives, tortured, and scream in agony. We know, see, and hear all of this. A vegetable dies, prone to weather conditions, and probably knows when it dies and suffers as well. We do not know, see, or hear any of this yet. Vegetables react to music, sunlight, and fertilizer. This we know now but in the future we will know alot more. When you think about it logically why would a vegetable react to all these things but not to suffering and death, surely they must.

The most interesting part in all of this is that PETA is ultimately protesting a game that doesn't have anything to do with animal meat. It's a misguided parody.

I think they are just using this as a publicity stunt, they all cannot be that stupid.

All of this is true. However you don't need to give up eating meat to put a stop to it. You vote with your wallet and buy free range meat that can be traced to an actual farm. You then know that at least the animal was humanely treated and that it was not made to suffer. The worst thing people can do is keep buying that battery farm shit which not only tastes like crap but you can be sure the animal has had a miserable life of intolerable conditions and likely died in incredible agony.

Perhaps, but if you look at the character descriptions for Super Tofu Boy, they create Meat Boy as a villain, a rotting cube of animal meat raging with jealousy. Seems pretty specific.

There is not self-evidential ethical basis as to why murder, rape, and enslavement are wrong. In fact, there are societies in which these things are practiced regularly.

Society creates normative standards that then inform our ethical view. It's naive to think that there is anything approaching right or wrong. What we can do is determine, as a society, what we value. Western society, for the most part, values personal protections; therefore, we've put a prohibition on murder, enslavement, and rape. We haven't always been this way either, and the transatlantic slave trade is only a generation or so removed from recent memory.

PETA is trying to apply human standards to animals. I can't think of anything more glaringly anthropocentric. A lion would not only kill me, but most likely enjoy torturing me a bit before finally ending my short time on this earth. Your house cat does the same thing to a mouse. Somehow assuming that the lion, or house cat, shares cultural human values, and thus should be protected from harm, is ludicrous.

And no, I don't feel any cogitative dissonance towards PETA. They're simply idiots.

I do agree that animals should be killed efficiently and with a minimum of pain. It's not because the animal expects it, or it's the "right thing to do, but because it makes me feel a bit better due to my cultural sensitives.

so, to extrapolate: we should behave like animals because they would do the same to us?

Must... not... get... involved....

Gnnnghh!!!

I don't believe in animal OR human euthanasia.........just my stance on the subject is all.

Come on man, there's pretty reductive.

If you re-read my post I think you'll see where I make the distinction, which is that we create ethical systems. And, you're operating under the assumption that there's is an essential difference between us and animals, which is itself an assumption rooted in your cultural upbringing.

My stance is very simple, but please don't reduce it to being absurd.

Thats fair and I can understand your point of view.

No, I haven't watched it. Why do Simon & Schuster think I should support the fast food industry?