Navagon: Yeah, avoid anything with Tages or Starforce. Especially Starforce. As far as I know Tages doesn't go as far as fucking up your whole Windows install and making it unusable.

If I was you I'd start downloading some 'patches'. If you get some help from Ubisoft then it will be using the same solution anyway, if their previous responses to such problems are anything to go by.

MonstaMunch: Funnily enough, I was worried about making a purchase with Starforce and asked here before making the purchase, and it worked out fine. Tages is the first one to prevent me from playing what I've paid for.

Navagon: Not every instance of Starforce has buggered things up for me, but when one instance decides to destroy Windows, well, once is enough, you know?

There's also the fact that Starforce and Tages are known to bugger up CD/DVD drives for as long as they're installed.

MonstaMunch: Yeah, well between my problems with the DRM and problems getting gamer's gate to even take my money, I'm starting to think it might just not be worth all the hassle, so I may just stick to gogs in future

Fifeldor: Is GameCopyWorld a good place for no-cd patches? I'm back home for the holidays and I am installing a lot of games, however I'd like to leave the CDs here and not carry all of them 3k miles away.

Navagon: There's also the fact that Starforce and Tages are known to bugger up CD/DVD drives for as long as they're installed.

Fifeldor: Is GameCopyWorld a good place for no-cd patches? I'm back home for the holidays and I am installing a lot of games, however I'd like to leave the CDs here and not carry all of them 3k miles away.

dksone: Starforce also has been suspected of completely killing some dvd drives.

MonstaMunch: I can handle SecuRom

grviper: Never had a retail disk game refuse to launch because the insecure Securom detected a virtual CD drive somewhere in the system?

dksone: Starforce also has been suspected of completely killing some dvd drives.

grviper: Never had a retail disk game refuse to launch because the insecure Securom detected a virtual CD drive somewhere in the system?

Navagon: Given the amount of Starforce usage out there and the amount of complaints about it killing drives I think it's likely to be coincidence. In my experience optical drives aren't the most long lasting of components.

grviper: Well, SF does have a tendency to knock any drive I used into PIO mode. Maybe some brands cant stand that torture.

MonstaMunch: There's nowhere to buy retail games here, and I was too young/broke to buy them before I came here 10 years ago. I'm pretty new to the world of being able to buy games legally, it only happened after I stumbled across GOG a couple of months ago. There's a fairly ironic story behind how that happened, but I'll save it for another day ;)