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Which begs the question: why an all-new title, and not just a range of DLC? Ono says the changes are so extensive that they couldn't just be tacked on, so a disc release was necessary.

You know, this reminds me of the whole L4D2 ordeal.
Except with L4D2 you don't get a bonus for owning both and it's full priced.

You know, I could be technical on your post, but honestly? It's just sad you have an attitude towards L4D2 like this. Plus it's 2:40 AM.
I'm lucky I held out...but this kind of "re-release" is somewhat surprising. Capcom should've known that they would have to do numerous tweaks. That's part of what makes good fighters. So setting up a system where they have to basically sell the game again to balance the game sort of shoots them in the foot. Though I guess that's not entirely their fault, what with console companies being jackasses with their systems (seriously, have you seen the amount of differences between all systems? It's a madhouse, not to mention all of the business aspects on consoles.).
What else do you expect from Capcom? They sold about 15 million copies of Street Fighter II. Which is only about 150 copies per version of the game they made.
So given the number of sales they've already made on SF4 it's hardly surprising they feel minor update of the game is long overdue. It's instinct to those people.
Holy crap, a Chaos Engine avatar.
Anyways, while it is announced on the heels of the release of Street Fighter IV, the release date isn't even until Spring of 2010. This really isn't any different from SNK's releasing King of FIghters games every single year at full price since 1995. We're also talking about a company that released tons and tons of rehashed Street Fighter 2's, and nobody complained then. Street Fighter 2 - Hyper FIghting was released eight months after Champion Edition, and didn't even have ANY new characters. Granted I'm talking arcade releases, but still.
I think people are also getting spoiled by DLC releases, making expansions or stand-alone add-ons seem like ripoffs, when that's how its been for years up until today.
Never got around to getting the current release of SFIV, though I was considering it as it's a genre I used to play a fair bit.
Guess I'll wait and see if I'm still interested in the future.
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Wraith: We're also talking about a company that released tons and tons of rehashed Street Fighter 2's, and nobody complained then.

Consoles didn't have expansions or DLC then.
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Wraith: We're also talking about a company that released tons and tons of rehashed Street Fighter 2's, and nobody complained then.
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StingingVelvet: Consoles didn't have expansions or DLC then.

Read below that paragraph please.
Post edited September 29, 2009 by Wraith
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Weclock: sounds like a good deal, I'm glad they have the consumer in mind, and I don't think it'll be $40 for the pc title, maybe $30, $25?
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TheCheese33: Maybe, but I think this will split the online base, because some may still want to play with the original Street Fighter IV rule set. I heard they're going into the mechanics and tweaking things about the other characters. If they have all characters unlocked from the get-go for this version, then I'd be happy to get it, as I hate playing the Arcade Mode over and over without fighting real people. Fighting real people is what makes fighting games so fun.
Maybe, But I'd be happy to play a game where Sagat and Seth aren't OP.
Which begs the question: why an all-new title, and not just a range of DLC? Ono says the changes are so extensive that they couldn't just be tacked on, so a disc release was necessary.

You know, this reminds me of the whole L4D2 ordeal.
Except with L4D2 you don't get a bonus for owning both and it's full priced.
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manatree: You know, I could be technical on your post, but honestly? It's just sad you have an attitude towards L4D2 like this. Plus it's 2:40 AM.

Uh, I'm not against L4D2, I'll probably buy it but I just see the similarities.
Post edited September 29, 2009 by TheCombine
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manatree: You know, I could be technical on your post, but honestly? It's just sad you have an attitude towards L4D2 like this. Plus it's 2:40 AM.
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TheCombine: Uh, I'm not against L4D2, I'll probably buy it but I just see the similarities.
I am against L4D2, and not just because it's using shitty Steam DRM, but because L4D1 isn't very fun and also because charging that much for what should be considered "DLC" if we're talking TF2, or an "Episode" if we're talking Half-Life 2, is ridiculous, regardless of how much content they manage to squeeze in, they are still pretty much killing off L4D as an on-going developed game. Yes, we're receiving new DLC, but I'm much more interested in the amount of DLC that comes out AFTER L4D2 comes out, because it sounds to me like this is Madden all over again.
Also Manatree, timezones are your friend. :D
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Arkose: While it's true that the Japanese have had this game in arcades since July 2008, announcing a follow-up barely two months after its first worldwide release smacks of blind greed. Their claims that this new content could not be shoehorned in as DLC is a flat-out lie, and yet judging by the comments on various sites some fans are willing and eager to lap it up.
I highly disagree, I believe that this is fair, because they will price it fair, if they give us enough content, then it's certainly alright, and while it may seem "close" for us PC owners, it's not nearly as close for the console owners, and also, Capcom usually has a fairly delayed release (maybe 4-6mos) on PC after releasing on console, so I expect it will hit us PC owners rather late.
They've had a great deal of time in order to create new content to the game, you may be thinking why not break it down?
because then you'll have 4 $10 installments of an upgrade vs 1 $30 installment.
Post edited September 29, 2009 by Weclock
I'm not going to bother quoting because it's clear I haven't mastered the art yet.
The thing is for L4D2, we're judging the game before it's coming out. From the previews I've seen, it sounds different enough to warrant its existence. But L4D2 is not for this thread.
Likewise for this "re-release", no judgments 'til it's out. Otherwise you're just applying too many internal biases that shouldn't be there when judging a game.
Also, "shitty" DRM? THIS WILL BE ADDRESED IN ANOTHER THREAD! And I guess the stuff around L4D2.
EDIT: I havent mastered netbook typing either. :(
Post edited September 29, 2009 by manatree
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Wraith: Anyways, while it is announced on the heels of the release of Street Fighter IV, the release date isn't even until Spring of 2010.

If this is the case then I'd predict that Capcom are really shooting themselves in the foot. They're basically telling everyone that was considering buying SF4 to hold off because an improved version is coming in 6 months or so, and if that wasn't enough they're saying this with the holiday season right around the corner. Unless they have some crazy strategy planned that I'm not privy to this seems like absolutely horrible timing on their announcement.
Post edited September 29, 2009 by DarrkPhoenix
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Wraith: Anyways, while it is announced on the heels of the release of Street Fighter IV, the release date isn't even until Spring of 2010.
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DarrkPhoenix: If this is the case then I'd predict that Capcom are really shooting themselves in the foot. They're basically telling everyone that was considering buying SF4 to hold off because an improved version is coming in 6 months or so, and if that wasn't enough they're saying this with the holiday season right around the corner. Unless they have some crazy strategy planned that I'm not privy to this seems like absolutely horrible timing on their announcement.

Are you familiar with SF2? This is typical capcom. Diehards are a big force in their model. It used to be in plunking down money on the arcade cabinets to demonstrate mastery of the new, improved capcom game. Personally, I like their games, but I'll never play online. I'll buy this.
Now the diehards buy everything when it comes out. That gives them an edge in the online rankings in addition to the previous factors.
If they don't beat the game to death, Capcom can probably get another addon/turbo/something edition and at least 5 games that are moderately different using the engine - it's gorgeous. Maybe Darkstalkers, the Alpha series, and something else. I'd love a MvC game
Post edited September 29, 2009 by cioran
Hell, I already bought Resident Evil 4 for Gamecube, PS2, PC, and Wii and it's the same bloody game. And I'm not that big a fan of the 4th one, but I kept magically hoping it would be better on each platform.
I just want a shirt that says "I am a Capcom whore." and on the back "Except for Mega Man."
Seriously, that weird pokemon/mega man hybrid can die in a fire.
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Wraith: Hell, I already bought Resident Evil 4 for Gamecube, PS2, PC, and Wii and it's the same bloody game. And I'm not that big a fan of the 4th one, but I kept magically hoping it would be better on each platform.
I just want a shirt that says "I am a Capcom whore." and on the back "Except for Mega Man."
Seriously, that weird pokemon/mega man hybrid can die in a fire.
you do realize that he's waaaay older than pokemon, right?
Also, it's worth to note, that the recent anime stylings were not the original design..
The last mega man game I played was Mega Man 8 for Playstation, and before that, Mega Man X. I grew up on the originals. Mega Man really hasn't appealed to me in many years. 9 looks more promising, but I haven't had a chance to play it.
Also note I am referring to the weird Battle Network games that suck.