Nope :)

It's a weird thing with that game. Sniper Elite V2 was retroactively UNCENSORED, later boxed releases had the uncensored version pressed on them. Sniper Elite 3 has also been released uncensored (it doesn't have any swastikas to begin with).

I really don't know how they passed the killcam by the USK, but I'm not complaining :)

(Interestingly, the UK Steam version was originally region-locked in Germany, making it unactivatable).

Steam isn't selling it as an indie though. 45? What the heck. That's regional pricing for you. -_-

HijacK however is not a German and while I don't know how much each version costs in Romania, I do know that he was talking about the Steam digital version, not the retail one, which is why I didn't mention it - figured he wasn't interested in it. But yes, PC retail version is the cheapest here too, at 35€. (Funny how this price is the same.) Anyway, I wasn't trying to say that Steam store has the best offer out there period, just that the price they're charging is not outrageous considering other new games on their store and also possibly cheaper than the console versions he mentioned.

You misread y post. I stated that if Steam users consider Steam overpriced, then my trust in PC gaming community has been dwindled to almost nothing. As far as the game goes, I don't care it's more expensive on console as long as I have the physical copy and I'm not required to be online to play like the game.

Thank you for that. So, yeah, it seems that only shady cd-key resellers were affected.

Rebellion made an update to their Statement. I may be mistaken, but for me this is the first time, that a developer not only talks about "unauthorized sellers" but clearly names all authorized resellers:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/238090/discussions/0/540744936577983546

Thank you the link. I can't stop laughing while reading these comments. I mean, people who bought a cheap Sniper Elite 3 cd-key for U$17 ON FUCKING PRE ORDER are complaining that their key was revoked? Give me a fucking break. If the price is too good to be true, then it probably is. There's no fucking way a legit store would sell a U$50 release for that price. What a joke.

All of your comments so far are really bashing on the customers, when it isn't their fault. Even well educated and cautious customers can be duped if a retailers supplier wasn't credible. In that case it has to be the retailer that takes the loss, not the customers.

I've seen $60 games sold for $20 in Russia all the damn time, so don't say 'too good to be true'.
Even within steamstore iself, you can see $50 games being sold for $15-20 in Russia.

Truthfully and legally, it is not the customers fault. The fault lies solely with that one distributor that says 7050 keys were stolen (how exactly? did someone hack into their servers and get the cd-key list? was it not encrypted?).
Any retailer/seller can somehow get 'stolen' goods, for sale, if their distributor was compromised (they should invest into better security).

this sucks.

The thing that scares me about this situation is that steam is willing to revoke over 7000 games without having to show proof as to why they did it. as it stands its steam and rebellions word against those they screwed. They say they were stolen but to my knowledge there is not one shed of proof that this was so (please correct me if im wrong). this sets an awful precedent that could be used in the future to really screw over costumers. Now if these keys were legitimately stolen I would have only minor problems with rebellions actions but as it sits there is no way to know if there story is true, and there seems to be some evidence to the contrary (though I will admit it is not concrete evidence). This includes things like changing comments and what they said. One time they were saying they don't care where you get the game from and now they are saying only certain sites have the right to sell which if I understand correctly cannot be legally enforced (again feel free to correct me if Im wrong). In my opinion it was a bit insulting for them to offer up game dlc as a solution to the problem because those effected don't have the game thus cant play the dlc. all in all at the least Rebellion could have offered more on the information front. It would have made there story a little easier to swallow.

Oh, wait, you mean "educated and cautious customers" wouldn't suspect a U$17 price-tag on a new game that costs U$50 and hasn't even been released yet. Oh, yeah, right. That seems like a reasonable discount for a pre-order.

It's just common sense. It's not reasonable to expect that a store will legally sell cd-keys for a new game that costs U$50 for less than half the price ON PRE-ORDER.

Those cd-key resellers are really fishy. Most of them get those cheap cd-keys from Russia and there were some cases of cd-keys getting revoked because they were bought with false credit cards.


No shit, Captain Obvious. Of course it's cheaper IN RUSSIA. You're not supposed to buy RUSSIAN games when you're not in Russia. This is against Steam's TOS and they could ban your account at anytime if they find out that you're bypassing regional pricing. Sure, you can bypass the regional lock and buy from the Russian Steam, but don't come back screaming "VALVE IS EVIL" when your account gets banned for good. If you're buying russian keys and you're not in Russia, you know the risks.

No, the fault lies those fishy cd-key resellers that bought stolen cd-keys. Rebellion has already stated which sellers they sold keys to. Customers are also partially to blame because they bought from shady sellers.

Cd-key resellers are the ones who should refund these customers. Rebellion doesn't have anything to do with this.

You do realise how bizarre it sounds, equating credit card theft with buying games from Russia? One is a crime, and the other is benefitting from the free market. Preventing one is a civic duty, and preventing the other is itself a crime.

But then everyone seems to think that they have to think the way the industry wants them to think, and think that thinking differently makes them inadequate as gamers, so I guess independent thought and common sense are overrated.

Not every game is cheaper in Russia, and just cause a game is sold in Russian, doesn't make it region locked, also, just cause a game is sold in Russia doesn't make it "Russian" version.
99% of games bought in Russia are region-free, and can be gifted and activated to anyone without any problems.

Steam allows trading and gifting of games, the only thing against the TOS is using a VPN to activate region locked games.
(steam has mutliple systems in place if they ever wanted to stop gifting/trading games across regions, they just put the decision into the hands of the publishers)

I'm sure you'd be upset if a game you bought got revoked, even if it was from humblebundle, or any other site you 'thought was reputable'.
It only takes a little empathy to understand the feelings of duped customers.

Steam is evil btw, hehe, I don't need to scream that.

ps. breathe, breathe, now calm down and relax. Phew :D

I read in a other place that nailed down the keys that provided pre order bonus and not keys that were standard editions

Strawman. Read my sentence again. I never said that.

I'm not even discussing "morality" or whatever surrounding regional pricing. I'm just saying that Valve and publishers don't like people bypassing regional restrictions. That's all. It's not that hard, is it?
Empathy for people gambling with shady retailers? Give me a break. They knew the risks and decided to gamble anyway. Besides, if these "cd-key resellers" are worth a damn they will refund customers. I know some of them already did.

I would feel empathy for someone who bought the game in a LEGIT store and then it didn't work or something.

And please, don't even try to compare Humble Bundle or other authorized sellers with those cd-key distributors. Seriously, it's ridiculous. No one knows how these "resellers" get their keys so cheap. Like i have already said, there have already beens cases of keys getting revoked because they were bought with false credit cards. It's not the first time something like this happens.