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Kabuto: Coupon is worth whatever a trader is willing to give. Face value, a coupon has zero value.
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Cleidophoros: I already said that: "Like I said, get stuff you want with your stuff you don't want. Prices, discount, percentages are all arbitrary. Say I have a game I will never play and its 60 bucks; I will happily trade it for something I want that is 30 bucks now. "
You were the one doing the math.
I only did the math to show how lopsided the trade would be. The trade initiater gets $15 pure profit of games while the receiving party only gets $5. By giving a $4.99 game, the coupon still holds worthwhile value while the person who traded his coupon still goes from having a useless coupon they got for free to having something worthwhile.
Aww man, no challenges today? I was sure Cave Story+ would be in this one. They made a fucking Xmas update 8/
There are many great offers though.
Alright I'm done with these coupons, I though I'd use any but meh, I have -10% paradox, -33% Skyrim and valve ones, Any one wants ALL of these for Magicka ($2.49)?
Post edited January 01, 2012 by anml28
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Cleidophoros: I already said that: "Like I said, get stuff you want with your stuff you don't want. Prices, discount, percentages are all arbitrary. Say I have a game I will never play and its 60 bucks; I will happily trade it for something I want that is 30 bucks now. "
You were the one doing the math.
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Kabuto: I only did the math to show how lopsided the trade would be. The trade initiater gets $15 pure profit of games while the receiving party only gets $5. By giving a $4.99 game, the coupon still holds worthwhile value while the person who traded his coupon still goes from having a useless coupon they got for free to having something worthwhile.
I see you are still confused, still doing some twisted math.
After the trade one side gets 15 dollars worth game. Other side gets either $20 or $13.2 worth discount, not $5. $5 is the outcome of the trade, not the discount itself.
I really don't understand wht part of it you don't get.
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Kabuto: I only did the math to show how lopsided the trade would be. The trade initiater gets $15 pure profit of games while the receiving party only gets $5. By giving a $4.99 game, the coupon still holds worthwhile value while the person who traded his coupon still goes from having a useless coupon they got for free to having something worthwhile.
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Cleidophoros: I see you are still confused, still doing some twisted math.
After the trade one side gets 15 dollars worth game. Other side gets either $20 or $13.2 worth discount, not $5. $5 is the outcome of the trade, not the discount itself.
I really don't understand wht part of it you don't get.
Ditto. My math is clear. I deal in net profit only. I don't care if you get $20 off. Because you had to pay for it, you don't get $20 off net. You get $5 net which is crap.
Post edited January 01, 2012 by Kabuto
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You are looking at it wrong. If there is an object worth $100 and I pay $100 for it, according to your logic the game is worth $0, but it's not, it's worth $100.
It works the same with checks and coupons.

You are just doing maths, of course the "net profit" might be a lot less than the actual thing you are buying, but it's supposed to be 0 in a trade.. it's the same for paying money for any object, the net profit is 0.

Now, why would anyone pay for a discount coupon? The way you view it, it's not worth because you win nothing. But that's why I am asking for half the actual price of the coupon. (Well it's worth less now because of steam's offer..). $10-$5 might not be worth for you, but if I could save any amount of money just by trading something in less than 1 minute, I would. $5 could actually get you 2 new games on steam...

Why don't we just leave this as everyone's right but with different points of view?
Post edited January 01, 2012 by anml28
I didn't go crazy with the achivements so I have hardly got anything:

6 coal
-50% Valve
-50% The Ball
-50% Max Payne 2

Does anybody want to trade all that for a gog?
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Cleidophoros: I see you are still confused, still doing some twisted math.
After the trade one side gets 15 dollars worth game. Other side gets either $20 or $13.2 worth discount, not $5. $5 is the outcome of the trade, not the discount itself.
I really don't understand wht part of it you don't get.
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Kabuto: Ditto. My math is clear. I deal in net profit only. I don't care if you get $20 off. Because you had to pay for it, you don't get $20 off net. You get $5 net which is crap.
It is not Steam Market but Steam Trade. You are not supposed to be profiting from it. If thats your cup of it, by all means, do find someone to rip off but don't try to justify it by twisting trade/profit/value and ultimately math.
I have 3 coal, -50% off Sanctum, and -50% off Munch's Oddysee.

Offer me anything.
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Dragobr: I had coals for another craft, but was surprised by the Steam Market Crash caused by the gift pile running out of games. They helped get me SPAZ in the end, though.

And now, let's hope some of those coupons get useful in the next 2 months!
Yeah and I wasted those on craft. Oh well, I'll just pretend it was an outright gift, then I'll be happy. :)
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Cleidophoros:
Just poking my head into this one for a single comment.

It's a coupon, you don't sell somebody a "$20 off coupon" for $20... that's probably the dumbest thing I've ever heard suggested in a trading thread.

The person buying the coupon might as well put that $20 towards the purchase of the game itself instead of handing it over to somebody that basically just gained $20 with no trade-off.
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Cleidophoros:
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Garugo: Just poking my head into this one for a single comment.

It's a coupon, you don't sell somebody a "$20 off coupon" for $20... that's probably the dumbest thing I've ever heard suggested in a trading thread.

The person buying the coupon might as well put that $20 towards the purchase of the game itself instead of handing it over to somebody that basically just gained $20 with no trade-off.
This is a trade, no one is selling anyone anything. We are trading stuff in our inventory. I didn't tell him to go and purchase $20 games to get a $20 coupon. Since we just left holiday gfit thingy of Steam millions of people have spare games and coupons in their inventory. Like I said before, get stuff you want for stuff you don't want.
In this example it is a $20 coupon for $15 games. He will get $5 from the trade. Is that still the dumpest thing you heard?
Anyone want some coupons? You can have them for free I guess, don't see anything I could ask in return...

- 3x50% Valve, 1x33% Valve
- 50% VirtuaTennis4
- 50% AIWar: FleetCommand
- 50% SeriousSamHD First Encounter
- 50% HOARD
Alright bitches, listen up!

Have THIS

Traded with all games but with Disciple iI gold. Any offers for this game I'm listening
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Post edited January 01, 2012 by Tantrix
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Cleidophoros:
Depends on if the person had to purchase any of the games in the trade or not. If not, then it's fine, but if he had to make any purchases it kind of loses the trade equality of it (from how I'm looking at it, anyway).

My point was in the hypothetical situation where one has a coupon for "$x amount off" and they sell/trade it to somebody for that same amount (wherein the purchaser has to spend money to get the items for trade with the "$x off" coupon).

If the person wanting the coupon doesn't need to spend money in order to get it, then that's fine, it's where they DO need to spend money on it that the coupon loses its appeal to me.

But that's just me, and since I'm not involved in the trade, I'll shut my mouth now :D