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General discussion (archive)Steam's great gift pile - what prizes?(616 posts)(616 posts)
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Posted January 01, 2012
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keeveek: These promos should be avaible only to accounts with at least one purchased game on steam store, to slightly limit the abuses...
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Tizzysawr: Should only be available with accounts that have at least $50 worth in games (C'mon, $50 is nothing for a gamer), indie bundles don't count, AND accounts must've been created at least a month prior to the promotion starting.

New accounts can always buy the games that are on sale.
That was just awful. Terrible ideas across the board. Why should a new user be discriminated against like that? If you just found out about steam, would you be okay with being excluded because you're not established? Your line of reasoning also results in less money for Valve. The contest gives an extra incentive to join.

Don't ruin it for new members just because many (inlcuding many established members) abused the system.

If we use your line of reasoning by the way, I've spent less than $50 on Steam in nearly two yeasr (despite 40+ games as those humble indie games really pile up) and would be excluded.
Post edited January 01, 2012 by Kabuto
Posted January 01, 2012
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anml28: So i still got this -33% off Skyrim, it's worth $20. Anyone wants to trade for a game? I'd be happy with a 15 or 10 dollar game, maybe plus Magicka or any 3 dollar game...

I also hot the B.M.O.C hat in case anyone wants any TF2 items...
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Kabuto: How on earth do you figure it's worth $20? I know it takes $20 off Skyrim buy why would someone give you $15 reducing the savings of Skyrim to a mere 8.3% off ($5)?
You give 15 bucks you get 20 bucks so you make 5 bucks. How much would you like to make; 19 bucks? Trading is not meant for making money but to get you stuff you want with your stuff you don't want.
Posted January 01, 2012
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Kabuto: How on earth do you figure it's worth $20? I know it takes $20 off Skyrim buy why would someone give you $15 reducing the savings of Skyrim to a mere 8.3% off ($5)?
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Cleidophoros: You give 15 bucks you get 20 bucks so you make 5 bucks. How much would you like to make; 19 bucks? Trading is not meant for making money but to get you stuff you want with your stuff you don't want.
You save $5 bucks if you act now at full price. Stack that coupon on a future sale (say 33% or higher) and you start to lose money. A trade shouldn't be so lopsided in a person's favor. The person getting the coupon isn't going to bother for $5 off full price (especially now that Skyrim had a 33% oiff sale last week). If they haven't bought it already, $5 off now isn't going to change that.

I think that coupon is worth a $4.99 GOG. Each gets something good. Refuse that offer and you're stuck with a coupon you have no use for.
Post edited January 01, 2012 by Kabuto
Posted January 01, 2012
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anml28: So i still got this -33% off Skyrim, it's worth $20. Anyone wants to trade for a game? I'd be happy with a 15 or 10 dollar game, maybe plus Magicka or any 3 dollar game...

I also hot the B.M.O.C hat in case anyone wants any TF2 items...
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Kabuto: How on earth do you figure it's worth $20? I know it takes $20 off Skyrim buy why would someone give you $15 reducing the savings of Skyrim to a mere 8.3% off ($5)?
It's just like trading a game that is worth $20 for a group of games worth $15 bucks or less. The "savings" are only $5. This is a trading thread though, I just want something I will use and trade the coupon to someone that will find some use to it. The other person in this case is not "reducing the savings" but trading stuff and getting $5 out of it.

I am looking for L4D2 and Magicka now anyway, so that's a 12 dollars total. 8 dollar savings if that's what you want to call it. Anyone interested... PM me.
Post edited January 01, 2012 by anml28
Posted January 01, 2012
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Tizzysawr: Should only be available with accounts that have at least $50 worth in games (C'mon, $50 is nothing for a gamer), indie bundles don't count, AND accounts must've been created at least a month prior to the promotion starting.

New accounts can always buy the games that are on sale.
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Kabuto: That was just awful. Terrible ideas across the board. Why should a new user be discriminated against like that? If you just found out about steam, would you be okay with being excluded because you're not established? Your line of reasoning also results in less money for Valve. The contest gives an extra incentive to join.

Don't ruin it for new members just because many (inlcuding many established members) abused the system.

If we use your line of reasoning by the way, I've spent less than $50 on Steam in nearly two yeasr (despite 40+ games as those humble indie games really pile up) and would be excluded.
That's the reasoning most stores do, GOG included. As I recall one of their giveaways was only for old members, and I've seen a few stores do promotions that are valid "Only for accounts created on or before ---", the most recent coming to my mind being Blizzard's Annual Pass for WoW with free Diablo 3.
Posted January 01, 2012
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Cleidophoros: You give 15 bucks you get 20 bucks so you make 5 bucks. How much would you like to make; 19 bucks? Trading is not meant for making money but to get you stuff you want with your stuff you don't want.
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Kabuto: You save $5 bucks if you act now at full price. Stack that coupon on a future sale (say 33% or higher) and you start to lose money. A trade shouldn't be so lopsided in a person's favor. The person getting the coupon isn't going to bother for $5 off full price (especially now that Skyrim had a 33% oiff sale last week). If they haven't bought it already, $5 off now isn't going to change that.

I think that coupon is worth a $4.99 GOG. Each gets something good. Refuse that offer and you're stuck with a coupon you have no use for.
So by your math if Skyrim is in another daily deal it will most probably be 33% off and a 33%off coupon will give me 13 bucks discount. I should give you the coupon for how much?

Like I said, get stuff you want with your stuff you don't want. Prices, discount, percentages are all arbitrary. Say I have a game I will never play and its 60 bucks; I will happily trade it for something I want that is 30 bucks now.
Post edited January 01, 2012 by Cleidophoros
Posted January 01, 2012
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Kabuto: You save $5 bucks if you act now at full price. Stack that coupon on a future sale (say 33% or higher) and you start to lose money. A trade shouldn't be so lopsided in a person's favor. The person getting the coupon isn't going to bother for $5 off full price (especially now that Skyrim had a 33% oiff sale last week). If they haven't bought it already, $5 off now isn't going to change that.

I think that coupon is worth a $4.99 GOG. Each gets something good. Refuse that offer and you're stuck with a coupon you have no use for.
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Cleidophoros: So by your math if Skyrim is in another daily deal it will most probably be 33% off and a 33%off coupon will give me 13 bucks discount. I should give you the coupon for how much?

Like I said, get stuff you want with your stuff you don't want. Prices, discount, percentages are all arbitrary. Say I have a game I will never play and its 60 bucks; I will happily trade it for something I want that is 30 bucks now.
I'm confused. Are you trying to agree with me now? Because you weren't before. If buying Skyrim right now, that coupon is worth a $4.99 GOG at most. The longer you hold on to that coupon, the less it's going to be worth because of future sales and price drops.
Post edited January 01, 2012 by Kabuto
Posted January 01, 2012
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Cleidophoros: So by your math if Skyrim is in another daily deal it will most probably be 33% off and a 33%off coupon will give me 13 bucks discount. I should give you the coupon for how much?

Like I said, get stuff you want with your stuff you don't want. Prices, discount, percentages are all arbitrary. Say I have a game I will never play and its 60 bucks; I will happily trade it for something I want that is 30 bucks now.
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Kabuto: I'm confused. Are you trying to agree with me now? Because you weren't before. If buying Skyrim right now, that coupon is worth a $4.99 GOG at most. The longer you hold on to that coupon, the less it's going to be worth because of future sales and price drops.
I am not.
I am saying your math is wrong. With that coupon you get 20 discount right now. and you make 13 if Skyrim is 33% off in a deal. Your math, saving 5 bucks, is the outcome of the trade not the using of the coupon.
To put it simply; you trade with a random stranger, you give 15 and you get 20 bucks. AND as a result of this trade you make 5 bucks. Coupon is worth 20 bucks, not 5.
Posted January 01, 2012
Got 3 lumps of coal and 2x-50% off on Valve games coupons.
Very meh.
Posted January 01, 2012
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Kabuto: I'm confused. Are you trying to agree with me now? Because you weren't before. If buying Skyrim right now, that coupon is worth a $4.99 GOG at most. The longer you hold on to that coupon, the less it's going to be worth because of future sales and price drops.
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Cleidophoros: I am not.
I am saying your math is wrong. With that coupon you get 20 discount right now. and you make 13 if Skyrim is 33% off in a deal. Your math, saving 5 bucks, is the outcome of the trade not the using of the coupon.
To put it simply; you trade with a random stranger, you give 15 and you get 20 bucks. AND as a result of this trade you make 5 bucks. Coupon is worth 20 bucks, not 5.
My math is wrong? What's the net savings at full price if paying $15 for the coupon? $5. What's the net savings if said coupon purchased for $15 is stacked on a 33% sale? A net loss of $1.8. What am I missing?
Post edited January 01, 2012 by Kabuto
Posted January 01, 2012
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Cleidophoros: I am not.
I am saying your math is wrong. With that coupon you get 20 discount right now. and you make 13 if Skyrim is 33% off in a deal. Your math, saving 5 bucks, is the outcome of the trade not the using of the coupon.
To put it simply; you trade with a random stranger, you give 15 and you get 20 bucks. AND as a result of this trade you make 5 bucks. Coupon is worth 20 bucks, not 5.
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Kabuto: My math is wrong? What's the net savings at full price if paying $15 for the coupon? $5. What's the net savings if said coupon purchased for $15 is stacked on a 33% sale? A net loss of $1.8. What am I missing?
I have been telling you; coupon is worth 20 bucks right now. And it is 13.2 bucks on top of a 33% off deal. So the coupon is worth AT LEAST 13 bucks not 4.99. Outcome of your trade (win 5 or lose1.8 bucks) is NOT how you value the coupon itself; you don't get to give 4.99 for the coupon, you give at least 13.2.
Posted January 01, 2012
So far I got 33% off any valve title, 50% off L.A. Noire, 50% off Silent Hill Homecoming, 25% off Serious Sam 3, and 75% off Aliens vs. Predator.

Disappointing I think, I'm not interested in any of those discounts :(
Posted January 01, 2012
Got -50% Valve(4x), -50% Killing Floor, -10% WarnerBros, -50% TwoTribes, -50% Frozen Synapse and -33% Skyrim. Meh.

If anyone here wants to trade the skyrim coupon against a $4.99 GOG, I would be happy to do that...
Posted January 01, 2012
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Kabuto: My math is wrong? What's the net savings at full price if paying $15 for the coupon? $5. What's the net savings if said coupon purchased for $15 is stacked on a 33% sale? A net loss of $1.8. What am I missing?
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Cleidophoros: I have been telling you; coupon is worth 20 bucks right now. And it is 13.2 bucks on top of a 33% off deal. So the coupon is worth AT LEAST 13 bucks not 4.99. Outcome of your trade (win 5 or lose1.8 bucks) is NOT how you value the coupon itself; you don't get to give 4.99 for the coupon, you give at least 13.2.
Coupon is worth whatever a trader is willing to give. Face value, a coupon has zero value.
Posted January 01, 2012
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Cleidophoros: I have been telling you; coupon is worth 20 bucks right now. And it is 13.2 bucks on top of a 33% off deal. So the coupon is worth AT LEAST 13 bucks not 4.99. Outcome of your trade (win 5 or lose1.8 bucks) is NOT how you value the coupon itself; you don't get to give 4.99 for the coupon, you give at least 13.2.
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Kabuto: Coupon is worth whatever a trader is willing to give. Face value, a coupon has zero value.
I already said that: "Like I said, get stuff you want with your stuff you don't want. Prices, discount, percentages are all arbitrary. Say I have a game I will never play and its 60 bucks; I will happily trade it for something I want that is 30 bucks now. "
You were the one doing the math.
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