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Zandolf: I think a lot of this is just you.
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SirPrimalform: And just like that the fog has cleared and I remember typing "YOU LIAR YOU LIAR YOU LIAR YOU LIAR".

I don't know what I was thinking saying I hadn't called you a liar when I so clearly had.

Not only are you not super crazy and paranoid, but you are incredibly handsome and I want your babies. Since we live on different continents and our love cannot be, I have to say goodbye forever my darling. <3
I thought it was strange to see iainmet having a feud with Zandolf. Then i realised it was SirPrimalform! Nice avatar, but i have associated that pic with iainmet so much, i expect it to be him every time, lol.
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gameon: I thought it was strange to see iainmet having a feud with Zandolf. Then i realised it was SirPrimalform! Nice avatar, but i have associated that pic with iainmet so much, i expect it to be him every time, lol.
Sorry! I felt the need to show my love for Grim Fandango and this was one of the only two free at that point.
So I still haven't ever heard a good reason of why people think PC gaming would have died if Steam hadn't been brought into existence, unless people consider indie platform games that more closely resemble classic consoles like the NES or SNES the heart and soul of PC gaming. Point-and-click games? Sure, those are doing better now. I don't see many indies trying to make a classic PC game like Dark Legions though.

If I want a console experience (which I consider Steam to be), I get a console. And I did. I wonder, how do people like using a mouse for games that were designed to be used with a stick, especially FPP shooters? What's the point?
Post edited November 06, 2012 by KyleKatarn
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KyleKatarn: So I still haven't ever heard a good reason of why people think PC gaming would have died if Steam hadn't been brought into existence, unless people consider indie platform games that more closely resemble classic consoles like the NES or SNES the heart and soul of PC gaming. Point-and-click games? Sure, those are doing better now. I don't see many indies trying to make a classic PC game like Dark Legions though.

If I want a console experience (which I consider Steam to be), I get a console. And I did. I wonder, how do people like using a mouse for games that were designed to be used with a stick, especially FPP shooters? What's the point?
It relates to the big-time developers and their reluctance to release or heavily support a game on a platform where it's trivially easy to pirate said game. Releasing on a console means it's that much harder to pirate a game due to constant updates to prevent such and some extra work required by the pirate. Steam offers an easy way to implement strong DRM in a digital distribution model while still reaching a huge percentage of PC gamers.

I don't agree with it and it doesn't really work as far as preventing piracy goes either, but that's probably the biggest reason people think that.

As for the second point, well that's the greatest thing about PCs is versatility. If a game is really ill-suited for a mouse/keyboard setup you can just plug in a controller or joystick and you're good to go. Microsoft sells a 360 controller that comes with a little receiver to plug in the computer that works for up to 4 360 controllers at a time; I use it for plenty of games.
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gameon: I thought it was strange to see iainmet having a feud with Zandolf. Then i realised it was SirPrimalform! Nice avatar, but i have associated that pic with iainmet so much, i expect it to be him every time, lol.
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SirPrimalform: Sorry! I felt the need to show my love for Grim Fandango and this was one of the only two free at that point.
No probs. I had a grim fandango avatar a few months ago :)