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Fallout, Fallout 2, and Tactics on Steam: $9.99 each
Buy Fallout, Fallout 2 and Tactics for $20 (Special deal)

Fallout, Fallout 2, and Tactics on GOG: $5.99 each
No special deal on all 3 (because it's already cheaper) but you get the soundtrack and some other goodies.
No client to play through.

Yeah I was pretty pissed when I discovered I should've done some shopping. I didn't buy Fallout on GOG for a while, I came here for other reasons (Interstate 76 was the first game I thought about when I heard about this website, and lo and behold!) I finally got them off that Interplay deal they had here recently and since have deleted he steam copies and installed these ones. Now Steam's only good for the very occasional game of Audiosurf; I will never buy another game from them.

Thanks GOG for filling the void, honestly it helps that these games are older since my hardware sucks.
I only buy games from Steam because the customer isn't given a choice: buy the game with the obligatory client, or don't buy the game at all. Great sales pitch. Steam has insane sales, I'll give them that. But they don't even come close to GoG when it comes to everything else.
Post edited November 03, 2012 by scampywiak
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Zandolf: While I'm at it. What is Desura? I went to moddb.com to get a mod for a game and Desura was required. Instead of DL`ing a game, I got Desura and it insisted on being online all the time. I deleted it and haven't messed with moddb.com since.
Desura definitely doesn't insist on being online all the time. Not only does it have an offline mode, the client is completely optional anyway so you don't have to run it for anything.
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Zandolf: Thanks. that has been bugging me. Still wonder why it was needed for mods. Sorry for going off topic folks.
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SirPrimalform: It isn't?

http://www.moddb.com/mods/portal-pro/downloads

Pretty sure there's a downloads page for every mod hosted.
A few months ago, this one:

http://www.moddb.com/mods/diablo-2-immortal/downloads/diablo-2-lilith-v164-complete1

and another I was looking at only had a download link to desura. I have not been back until now and I see they added a link for moddb.

Edit: that link is to another version of the mod I tried to download. can't find the correct version, looks like it has been removed or moved some where.
Post edited November 03, 2012 by Zandolf
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Zandolf: While I'm at it. What is Desura? I went to moddb.com to get a mod for a game and Desura was required. Instead of DL`ing a game, I got Desura and it insisted on being online all the time. I deleted it and haven't messed with moddb.com since.
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SirPrimalform: Desura definitely doesn't insist on being online all the time. Not only does it have an offline mode, the client is completely optional anyway so you don't have to run it for anything.
I tried to download the mod, couldn't. I tried another mod for titan quest, same deal. instead, the only download was desura which got on my computer and wanted to be online everytime I booted up. There is no option that asked if I would tell it when I wanted it online. Rather than, it came up every time I booted wanting to be online. I wrote desura and I posted the message above. Never got the mod as I was suspicious of desura and its wanting to be online while the computer was on.
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SirPrimalform: Desura definitely doesn't insist on being online all the time. Not only does it have an offline mode, the client is completely optional anyway so you don't have to run it for anything.
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Zandolf: I tried to download the mod, couldn't. I tried another mod for titan quest, same deal. instead, the only download was desura which got on my computer and wanted to be online everytime I booted up. There is no option that asked if I would tell it when I wanted it online. Rather than, it came up every time I booted wanting to be online. I wrote desura and I posted the message above. Never got the mod as I was suspicious of desura and its wanting to be online while the computer was on.
Can you link to the mod(s) that required Desura to install?

Also yes, when you run Desura it wants to be online (unless you click the offline button). If you don't want it, don't run it. ;)
If it was starting when you started your computer it sounds like you had "Auto start Desura" ticked...

EDIT: Oh, just saw the first of your two replies. The forum only told me about the second.
I haven't yet seen a mod on ModDB that forces you to use Desura.
Post edited November 03, 2012 by SirPrimalform
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Fuzzyfireball: You know what else sucks? Onions. I fucking hate onions. When I find them on my burger I turn into a big volcano of mega rage. Fuck onions.
But you know what? Everybody hates onions. You big attention seeking whore :P
I likr Onions!

espacally when they are fried, or blooming ..... MMMMH, Blooming onions!
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Fuzzyfireball: You know what else sucks? Onions. I fucking hate onions. When I find them on my burger I turn into a big volcano of mega rage. Fuck onions.
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Egotomb: But you know what? Everybody hates onions. You big attention seeking whore :P
I hate to scare you like this, but... [whisper]there are people in this thread that actually like onions...[/whisper]

/looks around slowly
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Zandolf: I tried to download the mod, couldn't. I tried another mod for titan quest, same deal. instead, the only download was desura which got on my computer and wanted to be online everytime I booted up. There is no option that asked if I would tell it when I wanted it online. Rather than, it came up every time I booted wanting to be online. I wrote desura and I posted the message above. Never got the mod as I was suspicious of desura and its wanting to be online while the computer was on.
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SirPrimalform: Can you link to the mod(s) that required Desura to install?

Also yes, when you run Desura it wants to be online (unless you click the offline button). If you don't want it, don't run it. ;)
If it was starting when you started your computer it sounds like you had "Auto start Desura" ticked...

EDIT: Oh, just saw the first of your two replies. The forum only told me about the second.
I haven't yet seen a mod on ModDB that forces you to use Desura.
Guess you haven't seen everything on moddb. If you had looked a few months ago, you would have seen it.
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Zandolf: Guess you haven't seen everything on moddb. If you had looked a few months ago, you would have seen it.
No of course not, but I can only go by what I have seen. I know that games bought on Desura certainly don't require the client, so it doesn't make any sense for mods to require it.
De gustibus non est disputandum!

You say, Steam sucks!
You say, Steam doesn't suck!

It is all about personal preference. There is no possibility to objectively say this taste or that taste is better. There might be in other things, but not here, here you can only compare the pluses and minuses.
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ShaolinsKunk: Fallout, Fallout 2, and Tactics on Steam: $9.99 each
Buy Fallout, Fallout 2 and Tactics for $20 (Special deal)

Fallout, Fallout 2, and Tactics on GOG: $5.99 each
No special deal on all 3 (because it's already cheaper) but you get the soundtrack and some other goodies.
No client to play through.

Yeah I was pretty pissed when I discovered I should've done some shopping.
I'm confused. The Fallout collection with those 3 games has been $20 for years, it's not a special deal. In fact, the special deals on those have been $6.79 for the pack.

Your shopping skills are not quite there yet :)
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iainmet: I know, its a shame really, the people that refuse Steam are missing out on some great new titles. Not forgetting supporting devs which in turn keeps new games coming to us end users. So be it though, its their loss really.
The unhindered ability to revisit the games I have finished is far more important to me than just getting to waste my time on playing the latest best game ever that I have no certainty that I can get a crack for the final patch and that it does a proper job of eliminating any third party requirements instead of just hacking the client, as then I would need to arrange that specific version of the client to be pointed to a right folder every time I launch the game(s) that it works with and hope that the upcoming service packs and Windows versions are compatible with it instead of just worrying to get the game's own executable to run.

Any game I start to play may have the potential to be so good that I would regret for not being able to replay it in the future because of DRM, so I rather spend my time on games that I know I can play as long as I have kept around compatible hardware and a suitable power source for it. Just as I don't wish to verify if I might be predisposed for getting addicted to smoking or alcohol by starting use them, I am not going to give publishers any power over me by exposing myself to DRM and then have the risk of sinking so low that in the end I pay a monthly fee on half a dozen services because the terms of use have gradually changed to require that to maintain the clients that are needed for the games to work.