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Profanity: While frustration is completely understandable, that still doesn't really entitle you to pirating and still getting the game. It does entitle you to saying fuck you, I'll just ignore your products until you get your shit together.

Piracy is still a more positive number than no number, man.
What do you mean by "entitle"? Every game on GOG is available to pirate too, but I've never pirated a GOG game. People will do what they are going to do, talking about what someone is and isn't "entitled" to do is rather pointless, what's going to stop them?
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Crosmando: Why should I rob myself of a game I want to play?
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amok: when it is so much easier to rob someone else?
That.
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amok: when it is so much easier to rob someone else?
They have robbed themselves of my sale already by using DRM.
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amok: when it is so much easier to rob someone else?
It is, isn't it?

*high five*
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amok: when it is so much easier to rob someone else?
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Crosmando: They have robbed themselves of my sale already by using DRM.
That still doesn't make it okay for you to get a cracked version. Either pay and play or don't pay and play something else.
Letting the browser use the internet in offline mode doesn't bother me. Not sure why it should?

Anyway I used offline mode for 6 months straight once and didn't have a problem. Supposedly they changed that lately, which would bother me, but I'll see how it goes.

As usual my main reason for not caring about Steam DRM is that on PC it is irrelevant. Valve blocking your game access? Get a crack. Solved.
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Randalator: That's where that statement (and stance) should have ended.
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Crosmando: Why should I rob myself of a game I want to play?
Then why not just buy it on steam if you are going to take that line of thinking? You have no right to a particular game and there are many games out there that are also grate and fit your criteria of having no DRM.
I see this thread is about to go the way of the dodo to accommodate another piracy discussion that has nothing to do with the original topic.

So I'm out but thanks everybody for the quick and very useful help. +1 for all you gentlemen and gentlewomen! I'll post in a couple of days whether or not offline mode keeps working for me.
Post edited July 01, 2013 by isis12
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Profanity: While frustration is completely understandable, that still doesn't really entitle you to pirating and still getting the game. It does entitle you to saying fuck you, I'll just ignore your products until you get your shit together.

Piracy is still a more positive number than no number, man.
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Crosmando: What do you mean by "entitle"? Every game on GOG is available to pirate too, but I've never pirated a GOG game. People will do what they are going to do, talking about what someone is and isn't "entitled" to do is rather pointless, what's going to stop them?
Nothing, I just think they're doing an ill thought out thing and not only being completely unfair and using pretty average rationalizations for getting shit for free, but also helping the DRM get stricter because they can't make themselves refuse a game if they disagree with the way it is presented to the customers or whatever else might be wrong with it.
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Randalator: That still doesn't make it okay for you to get a cracked version. Either pay and play or don't pay and play something else.
Says who?
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Crosmando: It's because the GOG forums are full of retarded contrarians who feel that they are special unique snowflakes, so they defend Steam simply because it's DRM and this is a site for selling DRM-free games.

Silly children.
Using your ideological stance as an excuse to pirate someone's hard work, that's silly.
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amok: when it is so much easier to rob someone else?
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Crosmando: They have robbed themselves of my sale already by using DRM.
And then it is people like you who perpetuate the logic and reason often giving for implementing more restrictive and heavier DRM. Congratulations on proving them right, and making sure the system will never change :)
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isis12: I see this thread is about to go the way of the dodo to accommodate another piracy discussion that has nothing to do with the original topic.

So I'm out but thanks everybody for the quick and very useful help. +1 for all you gentlemen and gentlewomen! I'll post in a couple of days whether or not offline mode keeps working for me.
You sure you don't want to stay? Shitfests can be fun to watch. Sometimes.
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Crosmando: Says who?
Law? Anyone with a working moral compass?
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Ash360: Then why not just buy it on steam if you are going to take that line of thinking? You have no right to a particular game and there are many games out there that are also grate and fit your criteria of having no DRM.
I don't want to use my money to financially support DRM. The more money games with DRM make, the more the publisher is going to feel justified in continuing to use DRM in the future. Voting with my wallet if you will.

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Profanity: Nothing, I just think they're doing an ill thought out thing and not only being completely unfair and using pretty average rationalizations for getting shit for free, but also helping the DRM get stricter because they can't make themselves refuse a game if they disagree with the way it is presented to the customers or whatever else might be wrong with it.
Strange to see this same old line of argument on GOG of all places. My point isn't really that DRM "immoral" or wrong, just that it fucking annoys the shit out of me personally. As I said people are going to pirate a game if they want to, you are never going to change this. The only way to get someone to buy a game is by offering them valid reasons for not pirating it. In terms of GOG, no-DRM, updates (with alerts), customer support, quick and easy installers hosted for you to download whenever you want, etc. I've never pirated a GOG game so I guess that means (at least for me) they are doing it right. I understand some people like Steam and find it convenient, and if that works for them okay.

In the age when anyone can pirate a game, the only way to sell games is by selling good games that make the customer want to support them to own them legally.
Post edited July 01, 2013 by Crosmando