Where does the hate for Midichlorians come from? As much as I enjoy a good mystery, I don't like the idea of the Force being Space Magic. Not that a bad explanation for something is better than nothing.

from what i understand its that it defined the force too much
from a mystic ..well force its now defined by the count of mutated cells in your blood

some things dont need to be explained

Not mutated. As I understood it they are sort of a lifeform on their own that lives in the cells that then gives creation to the force either by symbiosis or merely for its existence.

Wasn't it also a bit more accessible, eg. that even when you start out late as Jedi, you can still train and become a great one like Luke did. And there was no that Jedi code. The second trilogy put more flesh and depth to it but added restrictions - you can only be a Jedi if you start out young, otherwise you won't be able to enforce the code properly and so on. And it's determined from your birth if you'll be able to be a Jedi or not. And of course, it adds the wonkery of having a "more midichlorians" contest and thus being better with the Force just because of genetics and not skill or wisdom, however Anakin could be explained as an exception, being born out of the Force itself, if with other Jedi the midichlorian count doesn't influence their mastery of the Force.

You're right, I found some leaked footage.

Even narrated by James Earl "Vader" Jones. That cannot possibly be a coincidence.

I'd rather have a good film with a crappy title than a crappy film with a good title.

We never see any young Jedi since they are all dead in the latter trilogy but in the prequel Yoda is quite clear that one should start when one is young and why he's against Quigon to take on Anakin as a padawan because apparently he's too old (like 9..) and he's too close to his mother, you are supposed to be free of emotions like a monk but at the same time have compassion for human life.

As for skill or wisdom vs genetics, I don't think it's much of a difference between the movies in essence (even if it's easier to presume that the old trilogy holds this better) as for what Yoda explains about how one must give oneself to the force and give up on Eartlhy bounds as opposed to Anakin in the prequel, full of emotions and wants the force to be all-powerful and erase his personal problems.

It's definitely partly genetics though but I think they add in the extended universe that there have been non-force wielders that apparently learned it through experiments, training or utilize some ancient Sith/Jedi artifact that stores the Force but I don't think much of these is the focus on in either of the trilogies.

Man its been awhile since I have seen that show, but the episode I remember dearly was Ozzy being in the girls body.

I do remember the episode where Hector went through puberty decided to get things that will get him in trouble, and the lice episode, and the episode where he attempted to smoke.

Sex Trek: The Next Penetration


Oh wait sorry, am I in the wrong thread?

Well....sort of but still:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReOw_2f4lpY

could it be worse then voyager or enterprise ?

Now I get the "...to boldly go where no man has gone before".

So. Anyone really know the gist of the story? just asking...

The only info I can find is this:
Set approximately 30 years after the defeat of the Empire and the demise of Darth Vader, the plot follows a trio of young leads, along with characters from the previous installments.