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summitus: Well perhaps he doesn't own it then ? You can lend out a copy of the Physical game yes ? (granted that you dont play it yourself while your friend plays it ) so why can a friend not lend me his digital copy of the game ? If this is the case he does not really own own it does he ? gog or whichever digital D/L site owns it.
Use BS logic to justify your pirating if you want.
Post edited December 16, 2011 by Stuff
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Profanity: And you don't actually own the game, you own the right to play it. Just like GoG doesn't own these games, GoG owns the right to sell them.
So that in itself is a form Drm then is it not ?
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summitus: Well perhaps he doesn't own it then ? You can lend out a copy of the Physical game yes ? (granted that you dont play it yourself while your friend plays it ) so why can a friend not lend me his digital copy of the game ? If this is the case he does not really own own it does he ? gog or whichever digital D/L site owns it.
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Stuff: Use BS logic to justify your pirating if you want.
So you cant answer a question you just call it BS logic ? .. I have point do I not ?
Post edited December 16, 2011 by summitus
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summitus: Well that is Drm is it not ?
Nope. DRM is a system which controls if you are breaking license or not (like Big Brother).
GOG has no DRM but still grants you license to play the games.
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Profanity: And you don't actually own the game, you own the right to play it. Just like GoG doesn't own these games, GoG owns the right to sell them.
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summitus: So that in itself is a form Drm then is it not ?
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Stuff: Use BS logic to justify your pirating if you want.
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summitus: So you cant answer a question you just call it BS logic ? .. I have point do I not ?
DRM = Digital Rights Management

The EULA, you know that text file you are supposed to agree to when signing on the service and when buying a game, is not DRM.
Read the EULA for The Witcher 2, it appears you haven't even read it for any game otherwise you wouldn't believe that you own the copyright of a game.
Post edited December 16, 2011 by OmegaX
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summitus: So you cant answer a question you just call it BS logic ? .. I have point do I not ?
You logic is flawed and requires no answer. You're either very young or a troll . . . either way . . . no answer would stop the overflow of BS you are spouting to justify your pirating. Bye
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Profanity: And you don't actually own the game, you own the right to play it. Just like GoG doesn't own these games, GoG owns the right to sell them.
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summitus: So that in itself is a form Drm then is it not ?
DRM was added to prevent piracy, but it ended up hurting the customer. GoG took the hurting the customer part out, not the customer and all of his freeloader friends.

You can't expect such silly thing to actually exist, these are profit-seeking companies we're talking about. There's a limit to what they are willing to do.

No need to rationalize what you're doing, it's obvious as day to both you and us.
Post edited December 16, 2011 by Profanity
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summitus: So you cant answer a question you just call it BS logic ? .. I have point do I not ?
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Stuff: You logic is flawed and requires no answer. You're either very young or a troll . . . either way . . . no answer would stop the overflow of BS you are spouting to justify your pirating. Bye
errr bye ???
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Stuff: You logic is flawed and requires no answer. You're either very young or a troll . . . either way . . . no answer would stop the overflow of BS you are spouting to justify your pirating. Bye
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summitus: errr bye ???
Stuff wanted to say that if after reading all our posts you still do not understand you are pirating the game then he has nothing to add for you and ended the conversation.
Post edited December 16, 2011 by Lexor
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summitus: What the fuck is that supposed to mean ? you buy it you own it you keep it ? whats stupid about that ?
YOU buy it, YOU own it, YOU keep it. YOU, the owner of the account.

Your friend is doing a fucking terrible job at keeping it if he's letting you, and god knows how many other friends, download the games from his own personnal account, isn't he ?

This right here is why we can't have nice things.
Post edited December 16, 2011 by Namur
Well I guess you guys win , I came to ask a simple question and in the space of an hour or I get called , Stupid , a Twat a Troll and not so bad ... very young :)

and just to put your little goggy minds at ease , I havn't downloaded it , I probably still will buy it and most all I still love gog.

hugs and xxx to you all ! O_O

nighty night little gogettes sleep tight and dont let the DRM bite ;)
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summitus: Look I love gog and have bought many games here , maybe they should just make it a little clearer that you only own the games for your own use.
You are right, it should be made a lot clearer, Luckily though for us, Lexor found what GOG says about this and has already posted it here. Though finding it is too hard I believe. However, whenver you install a game there is a license agreement that more or less says you alone can use the software...it does say I believe that the agreement ends once you uninstall it...So if your friend uninstalled it, maybe it would be technically acceptable to use the game (at least to the game companies, not talking GOG here)...But, if he didn't, you would both be breaking the agreement. Anyways, GOG says please not to do it, so I guess that pretty much ends the debate, whatever we may think. It says in that link Lexor posted to not do exactly what you are talking about doing. I hate to bring bad news, but, it is pretty plain, there at least.
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summitus:
Have a good night, I do hope we did clear up what the facts of the matter are. That is all I was trying to do at least. I can see how it can get confusing for some. It's hard to accept what we don't want to, and don't personally believe is right. I'm stubborn myself, so I understand. :)
Post edited December 16, 2011 by KOCollins
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summitus: Look I love gog and have bought many games here , maybe they should just make it a little clearer that you only own the games for your own use.
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KOCollins: You are right, it should be made a lot clearer, Luckily though for us, Lexor found what GOG says about this and has already posted it here. Though finding it is too hard I believe. However, whenver you install a game there is a license agreement that more or less says you alone can use the software...it does say I believe that the agreement ends once you uninstall it...So if your friend uninstalled it, maybe it would be technically acceptable to use the game (at least to the game companies, not talking GOG here)...But, if he didn't, you would both be breaking the agreement. Anyways, GOG says please not to do it, so I guess that pretty much ends the debate, whatever we may think. It says in that link Lexor posted to not do exactly what you are talking about doing. I hate to bring bad news, but, it is pretty plain, there at least.
Yes gog says please dont do it and we havn't , although I may have done it in ignorance if I hadn't have started this thread :)

oh and thank you for being one of the few that was nice to me and not a meanie like some of the others ! :)

right of to Bed to dream of going to the Store to buy the Witcher 2 tomorrow .... zzzzzzzzzz
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summitus: So that in itself is a form Drm then is it not ?
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Profanity: DRM was added to prevent piracy, but it ended up hurting the customer. GoG took the hurting the customer part out, not the customer and all of his freeloader friends.

You can't expect such silly thing to actually exist, these are profit-seeking companies we're talking about. There's a limit to what they are willing to do.

No need to rationalize what you're doing, it's obvious as day to both you and us.
You have mad your point , and I understand ....

although really .... am not a Twat ... I kinda a nice cuddly person if you get to know me :)
Post edited December 16, 2011 by summitus
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summitus: Well I guess you guys win , I came to ask a simple question and in the space of an hour or I get called , Stupid , a Twat a Troll and not so bad ... very young :)
The internet. Allowing me to call you a fuckface behind the comfort of my monitor.

(I'm not calling you a fuckface.)
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summitus: Well I guess you guys win , I came to ask a simple question and in the space of an hour or I get called , Stupid , a Twat a Troll and not so bad ... very young :)
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Fuzzyfireball: The internet. Allowing me to call you a fuckface behind the comfort of my monitor.

(I'm not calling you a fuckface.)
hehe thanks for that , its cheered me up a little :)
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summitus: I have point do I not ?
No you don't. Your "point" is equivalent to saying "I bought this DVD, that means I own it, which means it's perfectly okay for me to make a dozen copies of it and give them to my friends".

Let me make this perfectly clear. DRM free does not mean "no strings attached", nor does it mean "you can do whatever the hell you like".

What it does mean is "We care about our customers enough to not want to inconvenience them with security systems which could prevent them from playing the game they paid for, and we trust them to honor this by not distributing copies of the games in question just because we haven't specifically made it impossible for the to do so."

You are betraying that trust. In doing so, you are showing GOG and everyone else that DRM free is the wrong approach to take. Since most of us here are rather in favor of the DRM free concept, it shouldn't come as a surprise that this attitude on your part should be met with a certain degree of hostility.