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While Eidos hasn't had a very good record of consistent quality, I really don't think that this buyout will have a positive effect on their products. I was pleasantly surprised by Tomb Raider: Legend and ended up very much enjoying both the plot and gameplay (despite the "press X to not die" sequences and a few minor porting issues) and the direction Eidos has been going in general has been quite positive lately. I can't say the same for Square Enix. About the only thing they've done lately to advance their core series is that the generically hot girl protagonist in Final Fantasy XIII actually is a girl as well as looking like one. Yippee.
Post edited February 13, 2009 by Arkose
a girl that looks like a girl? Nah surely not, probably a tranny with a tentacle in "her" knickers
I must agree that eidos' quality is a mixed bag, the new tomb raiders are generally very good, kane & lynch needed a few more months of development and a few less months of bribery and scandal. Sure for a game about disreputable criminals, their marketing department went all out but there's got to be limits... The worst part is that it was a fairly good game if you could look beyond the flaws (I'd give it a 7-8 out of 10), it'll probably never get a fair review though.
Post edited February 13, 2009 by Aliasalpha
OH GOD!
" In addition to the dev houses included in the deal, the company has its eye on.. ..Deus Ex."
Once you play enough JRPGs, you start to realize the plots and characters are usually all very similar. Especially were the main character is concerned. Do i always have to be that sword wielding kid that wants to do good and rite all the wrongs in the world? If i halve to listen to that same inspirational speech he gives in every game again, i think im going to have another nervous breakdown.
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BladderOfDoom: Is there anyone here who likes JRPG's who could maybe try explaining the appeal to me because i cant stand what i see as mindless grind myself. Or the impression that im not actually taking part in the story just steering a character between cut scenes that i get alot from JRPG's.

I like JRPGs, though not the mindless grindy ones. For reasons unrelated to my enjoyment of the few good WRPGs, mostly. Explanations in video form:
Vagrant Story - more cinematic than MGS, Castlevania turned into a dungeon crawler. Really liked its storyline. By "really", I mean "almost as much as PS:T".
Tales of Destiny PS2 - though nothing you'll manage in 4P co-op will be this impressive, it's still a nice battle system. The RPG side adds a nice twist to the beat-em-up styled battles, as your selection of characters/equipment/skills greatly affects your chances of success.
SMT - Raidou Kuzunoha. Abbreviated the title. Only played the first one, video links to the sequel. Which has the same sort of alternative history setting, except with better gameplay and more non-linearity. The first one I liked mostly for its adventure elements and story.
Valkyrie Profile - mostly for the presentation (artstyle and voice acting, especially in the Japanese version). The gameplay is interesting, even if the best ending can be hard to figure out on your own. I'm a sucker for pretty 2D graphics and Norse mythology, though.
Romancing SaGa: Minstrel Song - unique art, massively complex gameplay, turn-based combat, large world to wander around, lead designer being a fan of the old Ultima and Wizardy games. Possibly the least JRPG-ish JRPG.
Dragon Quarter - post-apoc dungeon crawler with an AP-based battle system, music by Hitoshi Sakimoto. Not a big fan of the art style, but the gameplay is enjoyably challenging.
I'm not going to link a video, but going to mention Final Fantasy 1, the PS1 version. RPG lite, it's what Lands of Lore is for its respective sub-genre.
And there's surely a couple I'm missing.
I guess that didn't really answer your question, though, considering none of those I've listed are particularly popular. Maybe the concept of a barely-interactive storybook is appealing to people due to the minimal amount of effort required to progress? In any case, I would not write off the entire genre due to select titles lacking in quality. In the same way, I could look at Oblivion and Mass Effect, then conclude that WRPGs sucked ass (whereas in reality, quite a few of my favourite games are WRPGs).
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Shoelip: If Sqenix released a new Robot Alchemic Drive that didn't totally fuck up the original control scheme I'd buy that in a second... except of course it wouldn't come out in the US. :P

Sandlot's more recent games have been published by D3, I believe.
That didn't have a lot to do with Eidos, now did it. Uhhh... this should be interesting?
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Weclock: OH GOD!
" In addition to the dev houses included in the deal, the company has its eye on.. ..Deus Ex."

Oh they want to get their hands on tomb raider, at least BITS of her. I don't have a problem if they publish the games and leave the development in the hands of the people who've made them in the past. Hell if they're concerned with quality before milking franchises then we might even get a good hitman 5 or tomb raider 10. Failing that I suppose we've already got those good games to remember fondly and we can just avoid eye contact with the perverse reanimated shambling corpses of franchises we once loved (wonder what percentage of the community are currently making mental comments about Fallout?)
Buyout approved!

Sad day for gaming indeed. Now I don't want Deus Ex 3 as JC Denton might become a 50 ft sword wielding ladyboy now.....
I think this means that Square-enix are going to try to break the western market by making a Shooter, since thats the only games in the charts these days :<
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Joycey: I think this means that Square-enix are going to try to break the western market by making a Shooter, since thats the only games in the charts these days :<
Final Fantasy crisis core was a shooter, and it failed, hard.
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JudasIscariot: Sad day for gaming indeed. Now I don't want Deus Ex 3 as JC Denton might become a 50 ft sword wielding ladyboy now.....
don't threaten me with a good time!
Post edited March 29, 2009 by Weclock
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Joycey: I think this means that Square-enix are going to try to break the western market by making a Shooter, since thats the only games in the charts these days :<
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Weclock: Final Fantasy crisis core was a shooter, and it failed, hard.
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JudasIscariot:
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Weclock: Sad day for gaming indeed. Now I don't want Deus Ex 3 as JC Denton might become a 50 ft sword wielding ladyboy now.....
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JudasIscariot: don't threaten me with a good time!

Tentacle rape of Deus Ex is now imminent!
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Weclock: Final Fantasy crisis core was a shooter, and it failed, hard.

Surely FF7:Crisis Core was a TPP action game? With poorly implemented RPG elements? Made for FF7 fanboys?
I got it on PSP, and it's become a slog to get through. It has helped me decide to become 100% PC gamer though, since my forays into the DS and Wii have also failed. (Wii sold many months ago, DS gathering dust next to the PSP).
Strangely, FF7 is the only JRPG I've ever completed. It's the grinding/levelling that kills me, although I feel I may complete Phantasy Star 4 one of these days, despite it being one of those games where you think you've come up against the big boss, only to move on to another area (and another...)

Oh how the Mighty have Fallen!
I guess we can expect games like Legacy of Kain, Thief, and Deus Ex to have an even more difficult time making it to GOG, now?
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Mentalepsy: I guess we can expect games like Legacy of Kain, Thief, and Deus Ex to have an even more difficult time making it to GOG, now?

Oh damn you are right :(