I picked up the Avadon 1 and 2 and Geneforge 1-5 during the sale and saw Avernum the complete saga. I know chronologically it goes Avernium to Geneforge to Avadon but was wondering if there was 1 that was easier to get into to try out or should i just play in order?

I'd start with Avadon. It's a good game with Vogel leaning towards making games with modern features such as marked buildings in minimaps, clearer menus, and reduced (arguably nerfed) character creation and leveling up systems. It also features NPC's like in other RPG's you can recruit and a pretty decent story.

Another option would be Avernum: Escape from the Pit, the remade first Avernum game. Same deal as with Avadon as far as UI and other mechanics.

If none of that matters to you, then just pick the series you have interest in (Geneforge, Avernum & Avadon) and play them. They all work still as good games.

Thanks I probably will start off with Avadon the black fortress Thank you for the advice.

They are three entirely separate story worlds, so the order does not matter.

Avernum features a traditional 4-character party. Something to consider: There are two Avernum series now. (Three, if we include Exile.) One is the original Avernum, which is six full games plus a scenario pack. Spiderweb is in the process of remaking these. At the moment, though, only the first one or two remakes are available.

In Geneforge, you're a single summoner supported by your creations. You can name them and preserve them for the entire game, if you care to, and if you're careful. Or you can forgo any personal attachment to them and callously use them to spring traps. Also, in the Geneforges, the story always branches significantly and meaningfully.

Avadon, again, you're a single character, but you get to select from a handful of support characters (each with their own personality and commentary) depending on the mission. Personally, I much prefer the other two games. I tire of the support characters bitching at me when I don't bring them on a mission, and I don't feel very attached to any of them. I still enjoy Avadon, though.

I have no problems with the Avernum and Geneforge interfaces. Once you become familiar with them, they are fast. I find the Baldur's Gate interface (for example) downright clunky in comparison. I'd start with Avernum or Geneforge, personally.

Avernum 5 and 6 play very differently from Avernum 1-3. Avernum 4 should just be skipped (in my opinion). It's kind of like the Might and Magic series in how the game mechanics evolve.

The difference is less extreme in the Geneforge saga, although Geneforge 5 does feel different from Geneforge 1.

Basically if a person is new to these kind of games I would recommend starting with Avadon, Avernum 5-6, and Geneforge 5. If a person has no trouble with earlier UIs feel free to play them in order, the stories are extremely good regardless. Early Avernum and Geneforge are also rather punitive in some regards, kind of like how the DnD rulesets change.

Last time I read about it, Jeff plans to only remake the first trilgy. Second he considers modern enough. Currently he's working on Avernum 2 : The Crystal souls followed by Avadon 3 and then finally Avernum 3: The Ruined World (probably will be released around end of decate at this rate).

I better try and get my name changed 8)