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15,504 ways to play!

Decisions, decisions, decisions. Once the holiday season gets closer, you have to decide what gifts to buy, what wrapping to use, which phone numbers to accidentally delete. There are many decisions to make as you get ready for the holidays, but one decision that we’re making easy for you is, “Should I buy anything from GOG.com’s Black Friday sale?” (The answer is “yes”, by the way. ;) Not only are we launching the sale early--in case you spend Friday in a turkey-induced coma--but we’re also giving you the power to pick your own promo!

In our Pick 5 & Pay $10 sale you pick 5 out of twenty fantastic indie games and pay $10 for them regardless of the game’s regular full price. That's $2 per game, for such titles like Torchlight, Resonance, Alan Wake's American Nightmare, Botanicula, Geneforge 1-5, Uplink, To the Moon, and many others. Seven of these games are both PC and Mac compatible, so everyone can enjoy!

The games are fantastic--and there are so many of them! That's why we started this sale early: to give you time to pick your dream-set of 5 games out of 15,504 possible combinations. You could look at this as another decision you have to make this year, but unlike trying to figure out who you should sit next to your slightly crazy uncle at Thanksgiving dinner, this one’s fun!

Black Friday marks the start of the “shopping season” for the holidays, so don’t forget to buy the gift of GOG for a gamer you love--or even just kind of like. You can’t spread much more holiday joy than this for just $10.
Awesome promo! I grabbed everything I was curious about but $10 - $15 price tags for unknown low-res indies created with a non-expensive engine always discouraged me.
Who knows, maybe I will like them and pre-order their upcoming titles :).

Thank you.
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SimonG: They were trying to make up for their own shortcomings by talking bad about the competition. That's what I'm calling them out on. Especially as it is plain obvious that once their shortcomings were fixed, they gladly took part in the tactics they found so bad earlier.
Oooh I get it, so you're actually criticising them retroactively! Ok. I suppose. Still, it just seems like you're looking for reasons why criticize anything that has to do with CDP even if it cost you life.
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SimonG: Snip.
My mistake then ^^ I thought you critisized the fact that they couldn't keep up with their non-degrading game politic..

That said, I totally approve your comment now ^^ You're right.
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SimonG: Did Bethesda ever said "we will no longer sell the original?". I don't know. AFAIK know they did never say that.
Well, from that statement:
"“On the heels of Doom 3 BFG Edition's release, we heard feedback from fans: you still wanted a chance to purchase the game's original 2004 release,”"
(source: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-11-12-original-doom-3-returns-to-steam )

one would extract the fact "We didn't want to sell that old game anymore, but you did want to buy it, so go and buy it" from beforementioned statement.

But ok, it's not the same thing with GOG and their direct statement against high promos. On the other hand, in every marketing, every statement is true until it's not., and when a company says "we will never do X" it really means "we won't do that this week 99%" ;-)
Post edited November 20, 2012 by keeveek
Very nice promotion. Unfortunately I only want one game from it, so I'll pass.

Excellent for people who missed certain Indie Bundles or didn't want the games on Steam or Desura.
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SimonG: Especially as it is plain obvious that once their shortcomings were fixed, they gladly took part in the tactics they found so bad earlier.
"Gladly". Are you psychic or something? Because if not there's really no chance you can know whether they did it "gladly".
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Protoss: Does this only work once per account or multiple times?
I tried checking out another 5 games (didn't go so far as to process the order), but I don't see anything stopping me from buying 5 more if I wanted to....
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Roman5: Fantastic promo, now we are in business

The only thing that's left for me is to pick what I want....

Trine and Torchlight are definitely going in there but what about the rest 3 free spaces...
Machinarium and Botanicula if you don't have them already.
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Protoss: Does this only work once per account or multiple times?
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SCPM: I tried checking out another 5 games (didn't go so far as to process the order), but I don't see anything stopping me from buying 5 more if I wanted to....
Very good, thanks!
high rated
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SimonG: And I'm sure those increased profits are really hurting you.

No offence, but you are the head of marketing. You of all people should know that "negative advertising" (and that interview was just this) isn't really a long term strategy. Because in the days of the internet people will call out others on the BS they said earlier.

And on a related note, basically calling your customers greedy isn't really a good marketing strategy either.

Maybe it's just because I'm more grumpy that usual but I read this like "We are better than the rest, but those people don't want to pay what would be a decent price, so we are forced into doing something we think is bad".

Guess what, I won't force you this time.
You're putting words in my mouth there. Quite a few of them, and they're different than what I said. So let's reiterate:

The interview I'm referencing above has (apparently?) not run yet; it's one where we talk about the fact that we stated that we don't think steep sales are a good long-term strategy, but we've heard from many users that they don't agree with us, so we thought about what we heard, looked at whether we could adapt to what we've been told, and then decided that we're changing our approach. You've probably noticed in the last few weeks that's been the case.

This is not a matter of "you greedy bastards want steep discount and sales so we're doing this against our better judgement." This is a matter of "we made a statement, we heard the feedback, and we're changing what we're doing." At what point, in the past, has GOG.com acted in a manner that you think that we don't listen to you guys?

Do I still think that steep discounts are bad for long-term value? I think they certainly can be. I think that, if you're not careful, you'll grab short-term profit, hit your goals for the year, and then next year find that the games that sold so well a year ago sell like rubbish now. I think if you're smart, you can counteract that problem, and I think that we've planned out a way to make sure that we're not stuck in 2013 or 2014 with games that won't sell. So, having heard what our users said and having thought about how to address those comments while staying both true to what we want to do as gamers and what we need to do as a company, we changed course. Whether it's a better or a worse plan than what we had in mind back in January of this year is something we'll never know, but it is a change that we made because we thought about what you guys had to say.

I would think this would be the kind of thing that you'd be happy about, that we listen to people like you, rather than something that you seem to be casting in a negative light.
I guess that since most (all?) of these have already been bundled to Hell and back, GOG's only chance of selling any copies of them is to discount them heavily.
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SimonG: Especially as it is plain obvious that once their shortcomings were fixed, they gladly took part in the tactics they found so bad earlier.
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F4LL0UT: "Gladly". Are you psychic or something? Because if not there's really no chance you can know whether they did it "gladly".
Cut the sarcasm.. :)

He clearly meant Gladly in the sense of "Easily" and without showing remorse ....
They could've posted a message explaining their new politic, or waited a little longer.
They chose to do the promotion out of nowhere BLAM !

They did however explain why after they did the promotion with the message from the mod.
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TheEnigmaticT: Do I still think that steep discounts are bad for long-term value? I think they certainly can be. I think that, if you're not careful, you'll grab short-term profit, hit your goals for the year, and then next year find that the games that sold so well a year ago sell like rubbish now.
Every game has it's sales potential. You can stimulate it by making a promo, but if you really hope that a game X would sell as well next year as it's sold this year... it's pretty naive.

This is why you IMHO need more releases than on Tue and Thu only. You are releasing more games per week than before and that's a good thing. Because every game has it's sales potential and after it's dried out, you have to obtain more interesting games to keep the spice flow, if you know what I mean.

Also, I'm glad you've noticed GOG is the perfect place for finished Kickstarter project games. I hope it is.
Post edited November 20, 2012 by keeveek
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TheEnigmaticT: snip
One thing - agree with you on your statement (about steep sales not being a good long-term strategy).

TBH, I'm now wondering if I should ever buy indie game on a 50% off promo sale, since I paid twice more than I would if I wait for pick 5 pay 10$ sale.
just a word of warning. There's no individual gift codes for games with this bundle, it's all or nothing. Friend got 2 games for me and 3 for himself in exchange for some others but couldn't transfer. It's still a ridiculously good deal and probably why gog haven't let you gift individual games but it's a rarity on here that they don't let you.