Posted March 14, 2014
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Registered: Jun 2012
From United States
Posted March 14, 2014
I can't find any evidence that this is true, and even if it were true, I wouldn't put my name on that petition. "Stop SOPA. SOPA stands for Stop Online Piracy Acts. In this case, all fanart will be deleted, all fan-pages, fanfics, fan made videos, etc. Please help stop SOPA." You're sending that to the State Department?
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ChrisSD
vita brevis
Registered: Jun 2013
From United Kingdom
Posted March 14, 2014
Anyone who cares about freedom of speech should be against any government measure to close a website no matter how much you personally hate it. That's the whole point of freedom of speech. As Evelyn Hall once said "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it".
The only exception I'd make is for a site where you could demonstrate a very real harm that outweighs the freedom of speech defence.
The only exception I'd make is for a site where you could demonstrate a very real harm that outweighs the freedom of speech defence.
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GhostwriterDoF
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Registered: Oct 2011
From United States
Posted March 14, 2014
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The only exception I'd make is for a site where you could demonstrate a very real harm that outweighs the freedom of speech defence.
Basically it is about control, not just to pursue profits in attempts to charge a fee for access to anything, or take a cut of anyone else getting income no matter how indirectly from content but, it is also about blocking access to whatever the whims of those in control do not want people to access, for whatever reasons.
The idea is to end Public Domain. It’s blind greed on steroids in all the worst possible ways.
If you really think about it, in business terms, anyone out there using bits of music, or images or movie shorts for their own creative exploration is nominally a form of free advertising for those products and productions. It can get recognition in areas where no professional advertising models can exploit.
All these control measures are getting tiresome. It shows a decided lack of foresight in the modern business professionals and especially top executives of today. They have no vision.
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Registered: Sep 2008
From Canada
Posted March 14, 2014
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Basically it is about control, not just to pursue profits in attempts to charge a fee for access to anything, or take a cut of anyone else getting income no matter how indirectly from content but, it is also about blocking access to whatever the whims of those in control do not want people to access, for whatever reasons.
The idea is to end Public Domain. It’s blind greed on steroids in all the worst possible ways.
If you really think about it, in business terms, anyone out there using bits of music, or images or movie shorts for their own creative exploration is nominally a form of free advertising for those products and productions. It can get recognition in areas where no professional advertising models can exploit.
All these control measures are getting tiresome. It shows a decided lack of foresight in the modern business professionals and especially top executives of today. They have no vision.
The business model that the legacy players used to rely on has melted away in the age of the internet. Rather than truly adapt and change, they just get jealous of successful tech companies, and think that those companies somehow "owe" them money. And the best way to legally do that is to get politicians to magically place legal liability on those companies, so they have to pay up. Notice and staydown has nothing to do with actually stopping copyright infringement. It's about taking the burden off of the legacy players, easing the need for them to adapt and change, while trying to force big tech companies to pay up. The irony, of course, is that in the process it would harm much needed innovation from startups and entrepreneurs (the companies that the content creators really need the most) and lock in bigger, more powerful internet players.
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Registered: Sep 2012
From United States
Posted March 14, 2014
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Please sign the petition to stop this (as well as talk to your representative)
[url=]https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/stop-sopa-2014/q0Vkk0Zr[/url]
If this bill passes youtube, devient art, and other things will be shut down.
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Registered: Aug 2013
From United States
Posted March 15, 2014
SOPA again?
You know I keep thinking that if copyright isn't being forcefully circumvented compared to it's original intent (14 year copyright, vs 70+life) then a LARGE number of these bills and problems would just go away.
You know I keep thinking that if copyright isn't being forcefully circumvented compared to it's original intent (14 year copyright, vs 70+life) then a LARGE number of these bills and problems would just go away.
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Emob78
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Registered: Dec 2012
From United States
Posted March 15, 2014
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[url=]http://act.credoaction.com/sign/reject_holleyman?akid=10152.5610373.CtgDf6&rd=1&t=3[/url]
[url=]https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/03/obama-nominates-former-sopa-lobbyist-help-lead-tpp-negotiations[/url]
[url=]http://dissidentvoice.org/2014/03/robert-holleyman-in-the-seat/[/url]
as well as
[url=]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tag/stop-online-piracy-act[/url]
apparntly there is a SOPA style provision in the TPP so it's going by unnoticed.
Unless and until we really care about violations of human liberty (even to those we consider enemies) nothing will change. There's simply not enough people in enough groups to act on their own and force cohesive action. Think about when the hippies marched on Washington back in the 60s to protest the Vietnam war. There wasn't 300 people there, or even 5,000. It was half a million stinky, stoned off their butts hippies burning their draft cards and saying, 'hell no, we won't go.' Nowadays, where can you can 500,000 people to show to do anything other than get a free burger or buy scalped Superbowl tickets?
When the people of the world get fed up with who's leading them and actually get off their butts and do something about it, that's when things will change, and not a minute before. Petitions? I've signed so many that I'm sure some people thought I was a spam bot. They don't do much. They can help if you have other actions alongside it like public protests and/or lawsuits, but on their own they don't amount to much, sadly.
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SpellSword
CGA EGA VGA SVGA
Registered: Dec 2009
From Canada
Posted March 15, 2014
This is the first time I've heard about this...
Fan art? They are trying to ban... Fan art? O_o
This isn't right. T_T
Fan art? They are trying to ban... Fan art? O_o
This isn't right. T_T
Post edited March 15, 2014 by SpellSword
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