If you think people will accept game-interrupting ads in a full priced product I think you're crazy. They flipped their shit about loading screen ads in Deus Ex HR and Square removed them.

I would have never dreamed people would have accepted DRM laden-ed spyware distributed digitally for the SAME price as a physical copy (especially when the company pushing it promised all the savings from not having publishers, not having to make manuals, disks, packaging, art, deliveries, profit loss from no more theft, etc, would all be passed on to the consumer).... I'm a little scared at what the people will accept when they want their shiny :/

If you mean Steam, most people LIKE Steam. Yes, people accept stuff they like.

Which is exactly the point. You said people were "crazy" if they thought people would accept in game adds. If people like the game the adds were in, they would play it. The same reason STEAM has things most people don't like but they accept it to.

Dude, I know some people take DRM personally, but there is a HUGE difference between accepting almost invisible DRM which comes with a ton of benefits people enjoy and accepting mid-gameplay advertisements.

I'm thinking you aren't remembering the stink over STEAM when it launched. NO ONE said, oh goodie... There were hundreds of thousands of signatures on petitions to UN-steam half-life 2. No one reads the EULA and says, hurray spyware! But people deal with it because they want the game. We simply disagree. I claim, the same people playing Diablo 3 right now... would be playing it if it had in game adds. If the always on wasn't enough, if the drm wasn't enough, if the cash shop wasn't enough... adds here an there are simply the next step that gamers will embrace... well most of them, a few years from now the majority of the player base will likely be mocking those that refuse to buy add-based games just because of a few seconds of adds.

And all I'm saying is that its not a stretch from what we see now... have you not bought a movie ticket only to have 45 minutes of adds begin at the movie start time? While you and I may not like it... people will buy it.

Name one feature that most people using Steam don't like.

1. DRM.
2. SPYWARE. (I'm not going to find it for you, read the EULA).
3. auto-patching unwanted patches to games


Please, tell me people WANT DRM that use steam. Tell me that it isn't an unwanted side affect of the features they actually do want. ;) You can tell me that if you want... but you'd be very wrong.

Actually the only thing they need to do is, like it was done for Steam, find a cute enough wrapping to put around it.

They just need to put some achievement for watching them, make the games some percent cheaper or just do again the whining act, like they did to justify online pass, and most peoples will accept them gladly.

You != most people.

Most people are fine with the DRM, because they don't give a crap about it. They don't see that as a DRM, but as a feature through which they can always chat with their friends, see their achievements and stats, compare their profiles with people from other parts of the world.

Most people are fine with the EULA, because they don't care if a message pops up once a month and asks them for a survey, which they can easily say no to.

Most people are fine with a tool scanning the currently allocated memory in order to block hacks and cracks for various VAC games.

Most people are fine with and love automatic installation of patches. Not to mention, one can always disable that for any game that he wants to.

EDIT: I really am trying hard not to laugh at the SPYWARE reference. :)

meh, you aren't most people either... and if you find the spyware reference funny, then you SERIOUSLY have not read the eula, or you simply don't understand. Filling out a form isn't spyware... collecting your usage date including OTHER software on your machine is.

Being fine with DRM does not mean people want it, which is what you are arguing against. I claim most people don't but will accept it because the wrapper is pretty enough. Hence the REAL discussion here of in game adds.

You are seriously arguing that people seek out and DESIRE DRM. If you aren't then you completely did not read my post before responding.

The funniest scene of the entire movie, IMO. Considering Nokia's future doesn't look too bright (and it also didn't when I first watched the movie) it seems more like a satiric moment to expect Nokia to still exist in the 23rd century. Maybe they should've taken an Apple product.

Trust me, I take your point, I just think ads are a different level.

People will accept almost anything given enough time and commonality of the act.

The trick with ads is to start small so that people don't even really realize they're being used. Maybe have an in-game animated billboard that catches your eye. From there, move up to the splash screen ads before the games start, you know, like how they do the 87 screens of whatever technology is in the game. From there, make mini games within the game that give achievements/trophies or allow you to get free MS/PSN points. And so on and so forth until there's interactive ads that require you to do something to get 'em to go away.

And if you think game companies wouldn't do it in a heartbeat? Again, naivete. Same people that are selling digital copies of games for the same price as hard copies. Stick the advertisements into a big enough/anticipated enough game to get the start on people accepting them.