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lowyhong: Ever since Doom 3, all the 1337 grafix hype just doesn't excite me anymore. Ok cool so technology has evolved well beyond the era of ASCII and Blade Runner style voxels, but big effing deal
Of course, given a choice, I'd choose to have Die By The Sword re-made in the Doom 3 engine. The old 50-polys per model graphics is very puke-inducing at times. However, it still remains a puzzle why game developers can never get their priorities right. Look at Fallout 3, months before it's release, Bethesda was busy hyping it's gore factor and how you can kill enemies in different ways. HELLO BETHESDA, MAY I REMIND YOU THAT YOUR GAME'S MEANT TO BE AN RPG?!
It's quite disappointing that the ingenuity of old is fading as gaming progresses. Everything's just a rehash of something else these days. Granted, some are well-made rehashes, but the point is, people are often dissecting their game features bit by bit that it's sickening. Games seldom mesh together into one fine product these days. They're like paper mache, having random pieces of artwork stuck together and being called a masterpiece after that

That being said, there have been some great games (hard to find, yes, but there all the same). I feel like the torch for actually innovative games has really been passed to Indie developers. Even so, look at games like Psychonauts or Sam and Max. Mass Effect had me reeling at the conclusion, and Bioshock wields its atmosphere and story like no other.
They are few, it's true, but cut some of the successes some slack. It's too much of a slippery slope to say that "as gaming progresses, ingenuity is fading".
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Petrell: This is the first time ever I heard anyone call Amiga or Commodore a console. Blasphemy! Burn the heretic! ;) Both were one of the most popular home computers of their time at least in Europe.
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Aliasalpha: Burn the Heretic! Kill the Mutant! Purge the Unclean!
Sorry, been playing a lot of Dawn Of War lately...

whoa whoa whoa!
Slow down there!
I never said I actually agreed with calling an Amiga a console! I was stating what I found to be why others called it one!
I just got some new shoes, I would hate for them to be scuffed while being chased by the angry mob!
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Ogodosh: They are few, it's true, but cut some of the successes some slack. It's too much of a slippery slope to say that "as gaming progresses, ingenuity is fading".

I feel differently. I didn't like Bioshock. Even though it oozed atmosphere during the first few levels, it got quite lost on me towards the end. Whatever sense of immersion the game had on me was completely gone when I arrived at Olympia Heights - the game dragged on for far too long, degenerating into just another mindless first person "errand boy" shooter for me
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Ois: whoa whoa whoa!
Slow down there!
I never said I actually agreed with calling an Amiga a console! I was stating what I found to be why others called it one!
I just got some new shoes, I would hate for them to be scuffed while being chased by the angry mob!

nonono, I want YOU to smack anyone who says it, I never thought you were that mad
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Ois: whoa whoa whoa!
Slow down there!
I never said I actually agreed with calling an Amiga a console! I was stating what I found to be why others called it one!
I just got some new shoes, I would hate for them to be scuffed while being chased by the angry mob!
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Aliasalpha: nonono, I want YOU to smack anyone who says it, I never thought you were that mad

Ahhh.
I like the sound of this plan :)
record it and put it on youtube
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anoffday: People who ignore older games because of the graphics or because they aren't new are just ignorant, and they're missing out on some of the greatest games ever made.

I know two people who do that. Those dicks. They find 2006 too old, let alone 1994.
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anoffday: People who ignore older games because of the graphics or because they aren't new are just ignorant, and they're missing out on some of the greatest games ever made.
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michaelleung: I know two people who do that. Those dicks. They find 2006 too old, let alone 1994.

Steal all their DVDs from 2006 or earlier, clearly they don't need anything old...
They find 2006 too old, let alone 1994.
If it were up to me, people wouldn't be allowed to play current games without having experienced the best and worst of all prior generations of systems.
Like a drivers licence, they have to pass space invaders, wizball, doom (can't stand it but there's no denying the importance), fallout, monkey island & TIE Fighter before they'd be allowed to waste money on EA crap
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bansama: They find 2006 too old, let alone 1994.
If it were up to me, people wouldn't be allowed to play current games without having experienced the best and worst of all prior generations of systems.

Hell yes. And I was BORN in 1994, so it's fitting to play games that I wouldn't be able to play. I do remember playing Wolf3D when I was 3 with my dad though...
i buy gog because i want convenience resulting from no DRM.
those games may be available cheaper on Steam but i have no interest in buying them.
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anoffday: People who ignore older games because of the graphics or because they aren't new are just ignorant, and they're missing out on some of the greatest games ever made.
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michaelleung: I know two people who do that. Those dicks. They find 2006 too old, let alone 1994.

i don't buy gog for desktop play, i am a graphics/tech whore.
i buy gog for mobile play only.
Post edited March 31, 2009 by PeegeeTips
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Aliasalpha: Like a drivers licence, they have to pass space invaders, wizball, doom (can't stand it but there's no denying the importance), fallout, monkey island & TIE Fighter before they'd be allowed to waste money on EA crap

Or even be allowed to play Halo.
Like a drivers licence, they have to pass space invaders, wizball, doom (can't stand it but there's no denying the importance), fallout, monkey island & TIE Fighter before they'd be allowed to waste money on EA crap
Hell yes. And I was BORN in 1994, so it's fitting to play games that I wouldn't be able to play. I do remember playing Wolf3D when I was 3 with my dad though...
Oh yes. I'd love to go as far back as the original inception of games. When they were first played on osciloscopes. And if that isn't possible then at least back to when people played pong/space invaders* in a pub by dropping money in old box next to the "machine".
Incidentally the talk of Doom reminds me of the movie. Before they grunts ship out to Mars one of them is playing some video game. The prop they are using is an old hand-held of a Space Invaders clone that allowed both single and two-player play (with the second play controlling aliens). Seeing that part of the movie brings a smile to my face as that was one of the first handheld games my father owned.
* I forget which one of the two started out like that, I *think* it was pong.
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Aliasalpha: Like a drivers licence, they have to pass space invaders, wizball, doom (can't stand it but there's no denying the importance), fallout, monkey island & TIE Fighter before they'd be allowed to waste money on EA crap

We need to also throw in a mario and a sonic game. And it has to be a 90s mario or sonic game.
Speaking of classic games, does anyone ever find themselves wishing that games never progressed past a certain system? I would have been perfectly happy my entire gaming life if video games never got any better looking than SNES games. Or on the PC as good looking as Duke Nukem 3D, or maybe Half Life.
Post edited March 31, 2009 by anoffday